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No one to vote for if a General Election was called now

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MamaCaz Fri 29-Mar-19 09:46:10

I am sure that I am not alone in feeling that if a General Election was called right now, I would be totally stumped.

Despite what some will have deduced from my posts on the political threads, I am not a dyed-in-the-wool socialist, and have been known to vote both Labour and Conservative in past elections. I suppose that makes me a floating voter, though I am more swayed by how the party in power has behaved over the last term of office than I am by any unrealistic promises of what wonderful things they 'will' do after the election.
That is why,based on what I saw in Cameron's first term in office, I certainly wasn't prepared to vote Tory in 2015, or in 2017 when May called the election.

But who to vote for?

Labour would almost certainly get my vote now if it had a half-decent leader, but it has become increasingly obvious that under Corbyn, Labour stands little or no chance of winning an election, and even if they did, I think that chaos would ensue. It would be a disaster.
In fact, if they had a decent leader, I think that there is a strong chance that they would already be back in power.

Yet in my area (Leadsom's constituency), Labour is the only party that stands any chance whatsoever (with a miracle) of getting even close to challenging the Conservatives, who got over 62% of the vote in 2017.

The Lib Dems are showing little sign of recovery (is this their own failing, or are the media to blame for not allowing them enough coverage?)

In the absence of a system of PR, a vote for the smaller parties just feels like a totally wasted vote, in my region, anyway!

Everything considered, right now, if pushed, I would probably vote Lib Dem, for the simple reason that they have been against Brexit all along - it really angers me when (mostly) Tory brexiteers claim that all votes for both Labour and Conservative in 2017 count as support for Brexit, as if that was the only policy on their manifestos.

At least voting Lib Dem would remove my vote from that count, which has to be better than nothing.
Without even that option, I would feel totally disenfranchised!

Does anyone else feel the same?

123coco Sat 30-Mar-19 12:50:58

I simply can’t understand floating voters You simply read the mission statement or whatever it’s called , what they have believed in for the last hundred or 200 or whatever that should be it I don’t think Manchester United fans leave just because they’ve had a bad, season ! I don’t like Jeremy Corbyn Because I don’t think you can win , but I’m a Labour member and I always will be because I see myself supporting policies which look out for the most vulnerable in our society , and progressive and forward looking. Whereas the Conservatives are all for ‘small society ‘ that is the individual and business Sometimes I think Some people really don’t know what their party stands for .
There is a big difference between patriotic and nationalistic I am definitely patriotic .

Hilos Sat 30-Mar-19 13:10:38

This is one reason why I despair. Also even more vital is that the world needs to unite in the campaign to tackle global warming which we are told will become irreversible in the next eleven years.despite this most governments have their heads in the sand.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/03/humbling-britain?fbclid=IwAR10r7SBsWlw3p26D0leUpvaIS-p8zW5DT3dLLFD6ktsxLpcuQ-PhKzFS8A

maddyone Sat 30-Mar-19 13:18:21

‘Some people don’t really know what their party stands for.’

Well unless they’re party members it’s not their party is it? Floating voters tend to look at the situation as a whole, and make a decision on which party will be better for Britain at that particular time. What they don’t do is blindly follow a particular party because they always have done. With Labour at the moment, many traditional Labour voters feel unable to vote Labour whilst Jeremy Corbyn is it’s leader. Obviously they must feel that they don’t care for his policies or that he would not make a good PM. In fact then, they become floating voters at this time. Maybe they will return to Labour at another time. Many traditional Conservative voters may well not vote Conservative at the next election, they apparently feel let down by the Brexit debacle.
I am a floating voter myself. I don’t blindly follow one particular party. At the moment I’ve no idea what I will vote at the next election. I believe that’s just about where the thread started isn’t it?

Anja Sat 30-Mar-19 13:21:21

Remind me again who is in power? Oh yes! The Conservatives.

And who voted them in (just) in 2015? The British public!

So ladies we have exactly the bunch of self-serving, incompetents we collectively deserve.

MamaCaz Sat 30-Mar-19 13:35:26

Only because of the FPTP system though Anja. The majority of voters did not vote Conservative, so can't really be blamed.

MamaCaz Sat 30-Mar-19 13:36:40

Very well put, maddyone

Nonnie Sat 30-Mar-19 16:18:43

123coco with all due respect to football I cannot believe it should be viewed as a parallel to politics. It doesn't affect people's jobs, welfare or the economy except in the smallest of ways. It is supposed to be a pleasure for the supporters whereas politics is not.

I would not even think about how I voted at 18 as being relevant to how I vote now, instead I look at the current situation and try to evaluate the best option. Right now I can't find one though!

Eloethan Sat 30-Mar-19 16:29:08

I will vote Labour. They're not perfect but virtually all the progressive policies and laws that we have in this country were introduced by them. I would never vote Conservative because I don't believe in what they believe in.

When we lived in a West Sussex town, there was absolutely no way that a Labour candidate could have been successful. Nevertheless, I did vote for Labour. I think that everyone should at least make the effort to turn up - if they really can't bring themselves to support any party at all, they should spoil their vote.

Nonnie Sat 30-Mar-19 16:54:15

Totally agree with your last sentence Eloethan and would add that we should all give a lot of thought to what we put on the ballot paper. Oh yes, I have written 'I abstain' on a ballot paper rather than not vote at all.

Boolya Sat 30-Mar-19 17:33:16

LibDem - but oh we do need PR in this country! An effectively 2 party situation is just not right. We probably need to get used to a coalition government - it is iniquitous that the Lib Dems get pilloried about tuition fees (which I appreciate is very important to those it affects), but were never praised for stopping the Tories from having a referendum on Europe at that time - ouch!!

freyja Sat 30-Mar-19 18:05:24

Here in Oxfordshire so far we have goats ? and now David Cameron has become a very rich pig farmer, we have a ? pig. We have no choice as to who we can vote for because we are stuck in the Tory old boys network safety belt. David Cameron' behaviour spoke volumes in Tory Oxfordshire, when he abandoned his country and principles, by causing chaos by having the Referendum. he was replaced by another Tory. Three years later we can add another self serving, self gratifying Tory to this elite list, Theresa May. The Mays have just brought a very expensive manor house to retire in. Again like Cameron, this purchase coincides neatly with leaving the Tory Party. So now we can add rats, in Oxfordshire, and like rats the Tory government are leaving the sinking ship.

stewaris Sat 30-Mar-19 18:21:06

mcem it's always about independence even when the SNP says it's not. Besides their current performance has been utterly appalling. The Police Scotland merger was not a success, the attainment gap in education is widening, the NHS in Scotland is a joke and, frankly, every time I hear Ian Blackford speak in parliament I'm embarrassed to admit I'm a Scot. Their time is coming to an end, hopefully.

stewaris Sat 30-Mar-19 18:22:16

Should also have said I have voted in elections recently by a process of elimination as no one appears to stand for the electorate just for themselves.

Leavesden Sat 30-Mar-19 20:26:32

I won’t be bothering to vote again, have voted all my life but recent events show what a shower they all are everyone of them just in it for their own self interests. It all started to go wrong with Blair’s treachery and lies and it’s set a trend, where we were once an honest and strong country it has all sunk into chaos.

Anja Sat 30-Mar-19 22:11:51

Illogical mamacaz because I was talking about who actually IS in power and how, despite how they have used and abused that power, they are apparently no different from those who have not!

Phoebes Sat 30-Mar-19 22:31:18

If every constituency were to field a Brexit candidate and a pro-European candidate, we could have a mini-referendum without even trying and give all the useless representatives of the major parties a nasty shock, as well as giving people who were too young to vote in the referendum a chance to express their feelings.

Phoebes Sat 30-Mar-19 22:38:36

We shouldn’t be wasting time faffing about over Brexit, when we have more important issues to deal with, like climate change and plastic polluting the whole world. If we don’t get these issues sorted, we won’t have to worry about Brexit or elections because we won’t be here!

Pippa22 Sat 30-Mar-19 22:55:24

After the Brexit fiasco and the awful behaviour of our representatives I don’t feel that I want to vote again. All my life I have voted, never missed and have felt proutvto be able to do so and feel part of the process. I cannot however just ignore Election Day so will just spoil my paper which I feel will have more effect. I feel quite sad to be feeling like this but have lost all respect for the “ democratic process “.

Ginny42 Sun 31-Mar-19 03:14:01

Leavesden, so it's all Blair's fault is it? Cameron and his cronies risky politics are completely blameless?

Corbyn and co, not only allowed a referendum result based on fraud to go unchallenged, but grasped it as though it was some great achievement. and they are completely blameless?

The blame for the current state of the nation lies with Cameron, May and Corbyn.

sluttygran Sun 31-Mar-19 06:48:45

As a confirmed Socialist, I will always vote Labour.
I personally like Jeremy Corbyn, altho’ I don’t agree with him on everything.
There can be no doubt that he has suffered terribly from smear campaigns in the national press, which have all proved to be baseless and untrue, but many have been influenced by this bad publicity.
The fact remains that only under a Socialist Government does this country have any chance of recovery.
If you disapprove of the party leader, then join up and campaign against his leadership, but do vote with your principles rather than for a personality.
Party politics and partisanship aside, I think most will agree that this present showed are by far the worst administration we have suffered for many a long year!

Anja Sun 31-Mar-19 07:40:56

That is one of the most sensible and logical posts on this thread sluttygran. At last the voice of common sense.

Anja Sun 31-Mar-19 07:42:12

Please explain Ginny how Corbyn is to blame for this fiasco. Facts and logic please.

Sophiesox Sun 31-Mar-19 08:07:19

Noticed the photo of the Queen in her ‘EU’ outfit further up the thread. I don’t think she chooses her own outfits. Doesn’t her lady in waiting do that? She wears whatever they have chosen for her. I remember hearing about the time Ted Heath spoke to her when he was taking us into the Common Market, she apparently said, “But what about Australia? The Commonwealth?” Heath shrugged.

Anniebach Sun 31-Mar-19 09:12:27

I agree with Ginny if Corbyn who had a large following had campaigned during the Referendum campaign I think the remain vote would have won. Instead he refused to take part in tv debates and even went away on holiday. He wanted out.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Sun 31-Mar-19 09:24:43

You're damn right Mamacaz - many of us have lost what little faith we once had in our politicians.
I cannot abide our local MP but the opposition isn't too impressive either.
However, I will vote - surely we'll get a hung Parliament? If I were a betting woman I'd feel like putting some money on it.