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National Unity......will it work?

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lemongrove Tue 02-Apr-19 18:44:15

Surprise announcement from T May this evening.
She will have talks with Corbyn to break the deadlock !
This means that he will have to climb down from the comfy fence now.
If she and her team suggest adding a customs union to her deal, he would be hard pressed not to agree.That could be approved by Parliament.

Grandad1943 Tue 02-Apr-19 21:50:27

Anniebach, apparently if Corbyn had not seen Mays statement on the television, he undoubtedly would not have been involved as he would not have known about the meeting

Typically May did not even ring Jeremy Corbyn to inform him of what she was about to state in her "Nation Address."

She seems to be not very good at those addresses or in her communications with people

Anniebach Tue 02-Apr-19 21:41:28

If the outcome of the meeting is anger from Labour supporters he can use his get out line ‘i was there but I don’t know if I was involved’

Grandad1943 Tue 02-Apr-19 21:36:37

It's kicking off tonight in the Tory party. The ERG group are demanding that the chairman of the 1922 committee must go and see Theresa May and tell her "she has to go."

Boris (The Buffoon) Johnson has been on Sky News condemning Theresa May's new stance and stating it is ridiculous that "the final stages of the Brexit negotiations have been handed over to Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour party".

Lily65 Tue 02-Apr-19 20:31:36

Hilarious. After this ridiculous hate filled charade, May wants to talk to Corbyn and she invites him via the TV.

We need consensus.......well who would have thought it?

varian Tue 02-Apr-19 20:27:53

"Corbyn 'very happy' to meet May to discuss compromise plan"

Apparently Corbyn heard about this proposal from watching TV.

That must tell us a lot about the way May regards her opposite number.

maryeliza54 Tue 02-Apr-19 20:24:57

If she were genuinely trying to be statesmanlike, she could have spoken privately with JC and they could have issued a joint statement that they were entering into talks together in the hope etc etc etc. That way she could have given him some ‘status’ as a partner at this critical stage. But no

Fennel Tue 02-Apr-19 20:09:13

That's what my husband thinks, maryeliza.

maryeliza54 Tue 02-Apr-19 20:00:39

She could and should have chosen to do the right thing 3 years ago. She is doing it now out of sheer desperation and in the hope that if it goes pear shaped she can shift the blame onto him. At PMQs she has regularly piled personal abuse and ridicule on him - I just hope he can be the better person because she is a complete failure

Fennel Tue 02-Apr-19 19:50:15

At last she seems to have caved in to do the right thing.
Brexit is a much bigger issue than simple party political differences.
Talking to the LP at this stage isn't a sign of weakness, just common sense.
I hope and pray something sensible, and acceptable to the EU, comes out of it be'h.

varian Tue 02-Apr-19 19:43:43

It took a long time for Corbyn to commit the Labour Party to a People's Vote, but he did that yesterday. Can we trust him to hold fast to that commitment?

Grandad1943 Tue 02-Apr-19 19:31:45

lemongrove, I could not agree with your above post more. However, we will need Theresa May to now approach the talks with Jeremy Corbyn with an open mind and be prepared to concede a number of points.

That said, the last time she spoke to other party leaders and parliamentary groups, they all came out of those talks stating "the door is open, but her mind is closed". That will have to change this time around.

There will be huge pressure on Jeremy Corbyn also, as the policy instruction from the Labour party conference was to first seek a General Election. Should it be that an agreed policy does come about between Corbyn and May, then within the Labour grassroots it may well be seen as Corbyn coming away from that Conference policy.

lemongrove Tue 02-Apr-19 19:16:12

It’s a rift that can never heal Grandad1943 so she may well
Go all out for national unity.
I would expect some resignations, but the Party could be all the better for them ( in the future.)
We need concensus now...badly!

Grandad1943 Tue 02-Apr-19 19:06:28

Theresa May has in all probability totally split the Tory party which may well be for good.

The ERG group and others will never accept a further extension to the leave process along with a much softer Brexit.

Tomorrow's Prime Ministers question time could be quite something to watch and will I feel show the depths of the rift in the Conservative party.

lemongrove Tue 02-Apr-19 19:04:38

My MP (Conservative) voted yes to everything, a bit of a surprise.

MamaCaz Tue 02-Apr-19 19:03:29

Ooh, I see I'm not alone.

MamaCaz Tue 02-Apr-19 19:02:41

The untrusting part of me fears that there might be more to it than meets the eye, some kind of ulterior motive, paving the way for some kind of blame-shifting if the stalemate continues maybe.

However, I will be extremely pleased to be proved wrong ☺

maryeliza54 Tue 02-Apr-19 19:02:37

Of course thats what she’s up to River

cangran Tue 02-Apr-19 19:01:16

Hmm - meeting for over 7 hours and all she can come up with is 'I'll talk to Jeremy and if my deal still doesn't go through we can blame it all on him and the Labour party instead of the useless wasters in government!'?

maryeliza54 Tue 02-Apr-19 19:00:54

The voting no yesterday was basically done by Tory MPs

Riverwalk Tue 02-Apr-19 18:59:41

Well rather late in the day!

Could be attempting to off-load the blame onto him if things don't work out hmm

The announcement was a bit of a damp squib - was hoping for at least a General Election!

lemongrove Tue 02-Apr-19 18:59:29

kitty....grin
The cat may be very singed and lose all it’s whiskers but we can always hope!

maryeliza54 Tue 02-Apr-19 18:59:25

But yes to what?

maryeliza54 Tue 02-Apr-19 18:58:43

I wonder if she’s let the Cabinet out yet and given them their toys back?

lemongrove Tue 02-Apr-19 18:58:04

Unsure about that ( should have been done earlier) as we have seen this week, sometimes if you involve other Parties chaos can ensue with endless debating followed by voting no to everything.
A committee of five often achieves more than a committee of fifteen I find.
However, we are where we are, and now Corbyn has a chance to say yes instead.

kittylester Tue 02-Apr-19 18:55:43

In answer to the OP-

Not a cat in hell's chance!!