What do we think of Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party?

If EU elections are held here for MEP’s then the Brexit Party
Will sweep the board.
However, there is still a small chance that they won’t be held I suppose, and a deal will be done with the EU.

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Yes lemon I get the feeling that people realise May and Corbyn will between them put together a dreadful withdrawal agreement which favours Brussels and ties us to the EU - only to prevent Farage humiliating Conservatives and Labour should we have to vote in EU elections.

He will wipe the board with our two main parties if the Brexit Party put forward enough candidates.

We all know it. People are angry.

Just a thought Lily65

I did say "perhaps".

Day 6 I can support every one of my allegations about Farage. Can you do the same for Corbyn? I doubt it.

Reading the diverse opinions & Brexit solution suggestions on here, I am surprised that any one either side of the divide has to question / criticise/ etc , the Government ‘s handling of negotiations, it seems to me it is much like any human marital divorce, the difference is that in the case of a (this )country instigating the divorce it has overlooked the difficulties of appeasing multiple spouses whilst trying to attract the interests of new mistresses.

Perhaps this is why NF, thinks he has the answers!!

I have been reported for saying I thought somebody was rude on this thread.

How unpleasant when you consider some of the other comments.

I expect I will be banned now.

Remainers follow anyone who’s anti Brexit ! Kandinsky Tue 23-Apr-19 14:01:27

If that were true wouldn't all those who would rather remain be voting Lib Dem. That clearly isn't happening.

I rather think your posts may be proving the lengths those who want to leave, any way, never mind what it does to the country, will go to in order to be a faithful Brexiteer.

Remainers follow anyone who’s anti Brexit

What a silly thing to say.

Where are people getting the impression that the Brexit party winning a few seats in the European Parliament is going to have any effect on the process of leaving the EU? They will not be in government and cannot vote in the UK Parliament. Which is where our elected representatives votes actually count.

All that the Brexiters will be doing is registering a protest. Like the 6 million Remainers who signed the petition. Registering a protest.

What the Leavers on this thread, with their talk of 'millions' are forgetting is that there are millions in the UK who are opposed to Brexit. They all have votes, too...

Especially the young, who were not able to vote last time- and the young who sadly felt that it was not worth the effort at the time, and now realise it was a BIG mistake. Their numbers have greatly overtaken those of older voters who have now proved that it was not really a vote for them ...(as they have departed).

That's what I was saying earlier Maizie. I suppose it's because the MSM has nothing else to talk about - although they should with all the awful deaths in Sri Lanka. The same is true of Change UK and for both of them does give them a chance to build their profile.

I couldn't make out whether Change is going to offer PR in the future. It did sound as if they were talking it up. That may attract votes if there is a general election I suppose.

It is being reported that Farage applied for German citizenship the day after the referendun.

It is further reported that he was denied German citizenship by the German police because he lied on his application.

Whitewave It isn't always true in life that people get their comeuppance but good to hear when it does.

It seems that the German state does not want liar Farage as a citizen, any more than the French state wants liar Nigel Lawson as a permanent resident.

If other countries can see these brexiter charlatans for what they are how come so many in the UK are blind to their mandacity?

I have been trying to find an idiot's guide to the dhondt voting system. Not worked it out yet. If anyone has a very simple explanation then I would be pleased to see it.

This is one explanation

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/91150.stm

The main point is that DeHondt is more proportional than FPTP, but is less proportional than a true PR system, especially in EU constituencies with a small number of MEPs.

Smaller parties are disadvantaged, especially if their support is spread around the country. So the SNP will be well represented, but the Liberal Democrats, who have support all over the country, elect fewer MEPs with many more votes. (as also happens with FPTP).

What is worrying in this EU election is the splitting of the pro-Remain vote between the LibDems, Greens, TIGs and nationalists, whereas Farage's party looks likely to scoop up nearly all of the brexit votes.

Vince Cable proposed an alliance of Remain parties, but unfortunately the TIGs rejected this so we could find that a larger number of remain votes leads to a smaller number of Remain MEPs.

Where are people getting the impression that the Brexit party winning a few seats in the European Parliament is going to have any effect on the process of leaving the EU?

I am not sure anyone has stated that should the Brexit Party in seats in the European Parliament will make any difference to the mess that leaving the EU has become.

Farage, like him or loathe him, is one of the most prominent politicians of the last two decades. He is a mover and shaker and as he encouraged us to get out of the EU, he is back recognising that the referendum result has not been honoured.

This is something much of the UK feels very strongly about. A vote for Farage, however it turns out, is a two fingered salute to the two party system, the parties who have done their best to shackle us to Brussels.

I have said it before. Many people in the UK don't have a political home any longer. I shan't ever vote Tory or Labour again, nor will many others. I will however vote for a party that is causing concern amongst the elite, the elite who ignored the people - from all walks of life, who felt the UK would be better out of the EU.

If Farage and co can cause ripples many, many people will cheer him on, out of a sense of betrayal.

I don't know anyone who has faith in Corbyn or May. Their parties are washed up imo, especially the Conservatives. Too late in the day we realised all along May was angling for a deal, not a clean break or a WA which would serve the UK better than the EU.

I also don't understand people who claim they do not know why the Brexit Party is garnering such support. Are these the same head-in-the-sand people who are aghast that the political trends they favour have no sway over the masses? People expect more. Our MPs have behaved disgracefully and the public will not support them any longer. Farage knows this and provides an alternative.

He is astute, if nothing else. The Brexit Party stands on one issue right now, but I suspect it will create political waves - maybe waves of tsunami proportions - if it contests GEs in the future.

The idea of the word "honoured" in the same sentence as the name Nigel Farage just doesn't compute. First, the referendum result was based on lies and half-truths and the breaking of electoral rules. Is that ok? Second, the result was to leave: it said nothing about how. The lies made it seem easy and all to our advantage. That was clearly untrue. Third, democracy doesn't stand still: now that the truth about leaving is known, many people who voted leave on the basis of lies have now changed their mind. Many of the young people who will suffer the consequences can now vote. If we live in a democracy, shouldn't they be allowed to vote?

Farage is disgusting. He's out for himself, and that's all. Look at him cosying up to Trump, Bannon, Breitbart, Banks and other far right slugs. Read what happens when this lot and their incel mates are on a roll - for example, in Spain: www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/23/wolf-pack-case-spain-feminism-far-right-vox

I am at a total loss as to how anyone can stomach the thought of Farage having any power. I hold no candle for the Tories or Labour either: I don't have a political home either. But voting for someone like him on the basis that it gives "two fingers" to the establishment is crazy. He is the establishment and is incredibly dangerous.

Farage is not going to produce a manifesto before the EU elections.

One has to wonder about anyone who is still prepared to vote for the BP, and being clueless about its future plans.

Great post Cycling.

???????. Not the brightest sparks are they?

pbs.twimg.com/media/D421TRLWAAALNws?format=jpg&name=900x900

Mover & Shaker or just plain old ‘Shifty’ ?