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What do we think of Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party?

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Kandinsky Sat 13-Apr-19 09:17:01

Whatever side of the debate you’re on he is very watchable.

I wonder how they’ll do in the elections ( if we have them )

CarlyD7 Sat 11-May-19 14:29:56

The Brexit Party is NOT a political party. It has no members, no deputy leader, no rules or regulations - it is a private limited company (registered with companies house). For all his talk to upholding democracy, Nigel Farage fell out with UKIP because he didn't want to listen to the democratic views of other party members - he wants total control = The Nigel Farage Show. Don't be fooled.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 11-May-19 14:31:23

GGMK3

There are always losers in elections - it's called the opposition!!

I was referring to the sitting MEPs / MPs i.e.the "muppets" who are supposed to be running this wonderful country The United Kingdom, the faceless eurocrats and civil servants are rattled by NF.

I also think many people who voted remain are rattled by NF, if not why so many posts trying to denigrate him?

GracesGranMK3 Sat 11-May-19 14:34:10

A war? What culture do you ascribed to each side that means it has to be fought over, undemocratically, until the attacking side imposes its will (or not).

Urmstongran Sat 11-May-19 14:44:57

That’s rich GracesGran

“.....the undermining of democracy where laws only matter if the suits the followers, the willingness to obey the leader”

I think you’ve got that topsy-turvy!

Try:

“... followers ecstatically happy to have a Brexit Party who are willing to put into practice the democratic decision of the majority of those (who bothered) to vote in the referendum”
?

trisher Sat 11-May-19 14:48:31

So many parallels with what happened in Germany
National Socialist Party- originally the German Workers Party
Brexit Party-once part of UKIP
Both headed by leaders who wanted complete control
Both used misinformation to attract working class membership
Both blamed the problems in society on one particular group of people
Both using patriotism and promising a stronger country.
If we leave and the economy plunges then we will have a repeat of the 1930s. And the result could be disastrous.

Bridgeit Sat 11-May-19 14:48:47

Well put CarlyD7,
Also Sadly he appeals to the prejudices ( perhaps unintentionally?) that lurk in our country.

CarlyD7 Sat 11-May-19 14:49:43

If you would like to look it up - see Companies House website, "The Brexit Party Limited", company no: 11694875

Bridgeit Sat 11-May-19 14:52:28

Yes exactly, Trisher & Urmstongran,

GracesGranMK3 Sat 11-May-19 15:03:48

He must have registered as a party Carly, or people wouldn't be able to stand in the election and be on the lists, surely? I think he has also allowed some trusted people to become card carrying members - just a small number. I do wonder what the law is regarding forming a new party?

CarlyD7 Sat 11-May-19 15:06:16

trisher You put it so well. So many parallels with Nazi Germany and most people just can't see it. We're sleepwalking into a disaster.

crystaltipps Sat 11-May-19 15:22:08

Of course Farage is worrying, the media give him way more airtime than parties of a similar size or bigger, he appeals to a subset of the population who seem to believe he’s some sort of messiah to lead them into the promised land that half the country is against; he is a petty demagogue; the more thuggish elements see his party as a vehicle for their own version of hatred. It is important to speak out against those who set themselves up as a dictator. What’s more he lied in the initial referendum and now his whole message has changed. So all that he will “deliver what we voted for” fantasy is so much hot air. What benefit would we as a country have? He promised us a Norway type solution and now it’s a different promise that no one was told we were voting for.

Bridgeit Sat 11-May-19 15:27:39

?

maryeliza54 Sat 11-May-19 16:15:14

Supporting a party that won’t let you be a member is sort of feudal isn’t it or handmaideny?

CarlyD7 Sat 11-May-19 16:20:52

GracesGranMK3 Sorry - my post wasn't clear. What I meant was that it doesn't operate like a political party - i.e. it has NO members (just donors/supporters). Usually, members have voting rights and a say over the decisions made. Or, in other words, Nigel Farage will be the chairman / dictator of the party and no-one-else will get a say. So much for his claims to be fighting for Democracy!

Day6 Sat 11-May-19 16:22:40

So many parallels with Nazi Germany and most people just can't see it. We're sleepwalking into a disaster.

What, by wanting Corbyn as our PM?

He is the one in charge of a party which vilifies Jews. If there is a horrible comparison to Germany it's got it's home in the Labour Party.

Day6 Sat 11-May-19 16:30:13

Look at what Remainers are doing - first they painted all Leave voters as thick, stupid, unaware and now all Brexit Party supporters are likened to those who followed the evil Hitler.

By drawing such odious comparisons it says so much about them and their hysteria and lack of tolerance.

Isn't lack of tolerance for others something most decent people of all faiths, backgrounds, nationalities, etc, abhor? Yet Remainers are once again hounding and insulting Leave voters for their temerity in wanting to leave the EU, for having an opinion different from theirs.

Watch Remainers step up the 30s Germany/Nazi attack. It is despicable

GrannyGravy13 Sat 11-May-19 16:34:55

Day6 so true.

GracesGranMK3 Sat 11-May-19 16:41:59

I agree with where you are coming from Carley. I do just wonder what, if anything, you have to adhere to in order to register as a party. It's worryingly that it takes so little.

GracesGranMK3 Sat 11-May-19 16:47:31

I do wonder about your sense of self Day 6. No one has painted all leave voters as "thick, stupid, unaware". Do you have some sort of confidence problem perhaps, that makes you think that people are seeing you like that?

GrannyGravy13 Sat 11-May-19 16:53:51

GGMK3. I think you should go back and look at some of the "Brexit" related threads, leave voters have been called , stupid, thick, unaware and a lot worse!

trisher Sat 11-May-19 16:56:30

Day6 if any of the parallels I posted about the Brexit party are not true please do tell me which. I don't think stating those parallels either labels Leavers as "thick, stupid or unaware" nor does it liken Brexit supporters to those who followed Hitler. It simply points out the similarities between two series of events.
My post was not made hysterically nor does it indicate a lack of tolerance. It is a simple observation of historical facts. And much as you may dislike those facts they remain facts.
Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it -Winston Churchill

crystaltipps Sat 11-May-19 17:15:56

And by painting everyone who warns against Farage as Jeremy Corbyn- following -anti- semites is so wide of the mark. Most remainers aren’t followers of Corbyn - where did you get that idea from? He’s trying to pander to Leave voters as well.

GabriellaG54 Sat 11-May-19 18:48:11

This thick, uneducated, unaware, intolerant, stupid (and any other description you care to ascribe to me) Brexit voter is off this thread. My summer isn't to be tainted with the spittle of righteous remainers keen to show me the way, the truth and the light.
Thanks...but I'll paddle my own canoe. grin

Whitewavemark2 Sat 11-May-19 18:50:25

Farage is taking a leaf out of the Duke of Edinburgh’s book, except that Farage has a chauffeur.

His car was in a head on smash with a car containing a toddler. Farage left the scene without checking to see if the screaming toddler was hurt.

Elite? I couldn’t possibly comment?

Lily65 Sat 11-May-19 19:19:40

Oh how very dull you are Gabs.....run along to Primarni and bag a bargain.

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