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Climate Change Protests - will they make a difference?

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crystaltipps Wed 17-Apr-19 08:28:34

There has been so far 3 days of climate change protests in Central London and other locations. They’ve disrupted traffic and inconvenienced a few, but have been in the main peaceful and has had a festival atmosphere. It looks like these protests will continue. Personally I feel climate change is a really important issue and should be the one that our esteemed politicians should be acting on and discussing but they aren’t. I’m in no way part of this group but, with some reservations, applaud their efforts and hope it does bring the issue to the fore. It does highlight how far our police resources are stretched that they can’t be stopped though. If you don’t live or work in the capital you probably don’t care about the protest , but hopefully you do care about the issues, and these protests it may be coming to a town near you. What do others think?

M0nica Sun 21-Apr-19 18:19:53

Great Britain leads the world in its plans to reduce emissions, obviously different countries will do it in different ways and in different orders. A lot of this will depend on all sorts of practical, and cultural issues. In colder climates, space heating is very important, other countries are economically dependent on energy hungry heavy industries. In sparsely populated countries it is easier to replace cars with public transport. This is much less easy to do when a country is heavily populated with networks of suburbs, petering out into villages and a spiders web of communication routes. It is difficult in countries where all adults in a household work and change jobs often in industries that do not operate in the local town, or village and when shops have migrated from town centres to town outskirts.

No one size fits all.

Eglantine21 Sun 21-Apr-19 18:42:29

I’m an old cynic Monica. For everyone like you there are a dozen (at least) that just won’t bother.

Or who will think that their own need/desire exempts them.

You only have to stand in the supermarket, take a walk in the country or look at the school run to see that.

Gonegirl Sun 21-Apr-19 18:50:25

some countries are doing better than us

crystaltipps Sun 21-Apr-19 18:54:23

To all this cynics on here who like to believe that all the protesters constantly jet off on holiday and do nothing themselves to curb their consumption - where is the evidence for such generalisations? Answer: There isn’t any, they are an eclectic mix of people, from all over the country all ages, classes, it isn’t a political movement - it is direct action, they are not rentamob. Those who think we are doing enough by doing a bit of recycling need to think again.

Gonegirl Sun 21-Apr-19 19:29:40

Greta Thunberg is there now!!! And David Attenborough.

Eglantine21 Sun 21-Apr-19 19:40:16

Greta Thunberg?

How did they get there I wonder?

Car for one ?

I think it proves my point as above

Gonegirl Sun 21-Apr-19 19:47:29

Do you not know who she is? Proves something definitely. grin

Eglantine21 Sun 21-Apr-19 19:52:10

Gosh. And she rowed all the way from Sweden.........

Or could she possibly have utilisedtransport that involved -gasp- pollution

GabriellaG54 Sun 21-Apr-19 19:53:12

I doubt any of the thousands of people swarming to the coast this weekend were thinking about climate change when they were driving their cars, eating meat patties or hot-dogs and using plastic bags.
Brighton and Weymouth.

Gonegirl Sun 21-Apr-19 19:55:12

eglantine she has actually made a two day train journey to get here, to keep her carbon footprint to the minimum.

Gonegirl Sun 21-Apr-19 19:57:57

Any more bitchy comments Eglantine?

Eglantine21 Sun 21-Apr-19 19:59:31

Diesel of course, since less than half of Swedish trains are electrified.

Or she could have stayed at home for zero pollution

Eglantine21 Sun 21-Apr-19 20:02:19

So her thinking was?

I’d really like to know.

It is ok for me to cause pollution (after all I’ve kept it to as little as I can without giving up what I want to do) because........

Then surely that reasoning is ok for all of us.

Gonegirl Sun 21-Apr-19 20:37:43

She is contributing to a very important event. We can't go back to the dark ages completely. We still have to travel. It just needs to be as environmentally friendly as possible. The girl is making an excellent contribution. hmm

Eglantine21 Sun 21-Apr-19 20:46:35

That’s exactly what I mean.

People will always find a reason why they should be the exception.

Gonegirl Sun 21-Apr-19 20:52:11

Oh I give up. hmm

M0nica Sun 21-Apr-19 21:08:44

No one, I have noticed, is suggesting that ER supporters are profligate wasters of energy. But if they are going to set extreme and impossible demands on energy use in this country, it is entirely reasonable to expect them to be leading lives of exceptional energy saving themselves already.

But Gonegirl, if Greta Thunberg is faced with the problem that We still have to travel. It just needs to be as environmentally friendly as possible., then ER should be demanding that we speed up reducing emissions, but that this has to be phased, in not demanding a complete reduction to zero by 2025.

While they still make this ridiculous demand that we be emission free by 2025 all of them have to accept that: We still have to travel. It just needs to be as environmentally friendly as possible. is just not an acceptable argument. Her presence should have been electronic, not physical.

Namsnanny Sun 21-Apr-19 21:15:40

I realise what I'm about to say is probably infuriating to all who have commented from both sides...…...but I do mean it seriously.....

How Can Government's Work Together Towards ANY Positive Result Re The Climate When We Cant Even Talk About It Sensibly on gransnet????????

Now, on to more important things, Line of duty is on!!!!

M0nica Sun 21-Apr-19 21:18:45

How Can Government's Work Together Towards ANY Positive Result Re The Climate When We Cant Even Talk About It Sensibly on gransnet

That is an entirely different subject which has not been posted yet. This thread is about: Climate Change Protests - will they make a difference

Gonegirl Sun 21-Apr-19 22:11:20

I would imagine, or at least hope, that members of various governments have a bit more between the ears than some, perhaps most, members of Gransnet.

Gonegirl Sun 21-Apr-19 22:13:35

Rubbish (electronic presence). Bumptious rubbish.

maryeliza54 Sun 21-Apr-19 22:17:27

A bunch of old women criticising a young girl who has a bravery and wisdom they probably have never demonstrated themselves in their pefect little lives. FFS. Gonegirl more power to you DGs’s elbow - you are rightly proud of him. It’s so easy to criticise those who stand for something and try to make a difference however imperfectly.

Gonegirl Sun 21-Apr-19 22:19:52

Maryeliza you have no idea what relief your post brings me. I thought everyone on here must be against them.

Maggiemaybe Sun 21-Apr-19 22:24:50

Even though there have been several people posting in support? confused

Gonegirl Sun 21-Apr-19 22:27:21

Even though.