Lyra Mckee

Callistemon Quote [ Perhaps you weren't aware that the New IRA formed in 2012 from smaller groups which reject the Peace Process and was formed well before the referendum.] End Quote

I agree that the "New IRA" did reject the Good Friday Agreement prior to the Referendum. However, Brexit has highlighted the border issue and that the Irish people are a divided nation.

The above circumstances have created a fertile recruitment ground for hardline nationalists, and that is why violence is once again growing in Northern Ireland.

Evidence to the above can be found by following this link:- news.sky.com/story/lyra-mckee-murder-police-concern-over-new-breed-of-terrorists-11699070

Perhaps you weren't aware that the New IRA formed in 2012 from smaller groups which reject the Peace Process and was formed well before the referendum.

Exactly Varian- we have friends and family on both sides, and they all agree that it is all linked.

The tragic death of Lyra McKee shows our carelessness towards the fragility of the Good Friday Agreement.

It is not a cheap point to link the upsurge in violence – partly – on Brexit. The possibility of a hard border on the island of Ireland is something that inflames passions that not enough people on the eastern side of the Irish Sea, especially a new generation of British Tory politicians, sufficiently understand.

www.independent.co.uk/voices/northern-ireland-shooting-lyra-mckee-good-friday-agreement-violence-dissident-a8878126.html

The Stormont Executive collapsed two years ago and there is a power struggle going on between the DUP and Sinn Fein.
Sinn Fein are always plotting for a united Ireland and the DUP doing the opposite.
Dissidents, criminals and general thugs and idiots are always looking for ways to make money and to cause trouble.
Also, it’s Easter, the traditional time for uprisings and trouble making.
Those who wish to harp on about Brexit should take it to another thread ( there are plenty of threads on it after all.)

Now learning about the awful unhappiness she suffered because she was gay - NI is an absolute disgrace in its homophobia - both Catholic and Protestant
Yes, she was a very brave journalist as she had been campaigning for gay rights in NI.

I think it was naïve to assume that all was lovely and peaceful in NI.
The long list the Bishop (of Down and Connor) referred to has continued to grow. In all, by April this year (2018), a total of 158 people have died in what the PSNI (Police Service of Northern Ireland) refer to as security-related killings in the period since the Good Friday/Belfast Agreement was signed in April 1998.
www.thedetail.tv/articles/the-cruel-peace-killings-in-northern-ireland-since-the-good-friday-agreement

Perhaps her death will be a turning point in bringing people together, let us hope so.
RIP Lyra McKee

Apologies, that should be *prostitution" in my post above and not "prosecution."

The Dublin government has always been "lukewarm" about unification with the North. However, it is the IRA we are referring to here, and they have a very different agenda to the Irish government.

In regard to drugs, prosecution etc being involved with the radical nationalist cause, that has always been the case throughout the "troubles." In that, how else have they funded their activities, as not all the money came from America.

As I understand it the ROI are very lukewarm about reunifying with the North! The thought of all those Unionists, Orangemen and other Protestant organisations doesn't fill the Dublin government with any joy at all!!
Also it would appear that Maffia type gangs are taking full advantage of the problems of NI to fuel their drug, prostitution, slavery etc rackets. Brexit?!! Trouble has been brewing long before that!!

Brexit has highlighted that Ireland is a divided nation. The Border has since the independence of Sothern Ireland been an "open wound" for those that believe in a fully independent Ireland under the Dublin government.

The Good Friday agreement made the border at least acceptable to the Nationalists, but Brexit has once again brought forward the issue of the border and that of the divided nation.

The forgoing makes fertile recruiting ground once again for radical Nationalists who wish to bring about that one government Ireland. Proof of that was to be witnessed in the car bomb in Londonderry last month, and now the killing of Lyra McKee.

However, there are always those that do not wish to see that which is plainly in front of them.

The death of this journalist is shocking, but Brexit has nothing to do with it. Those who think that the Good Friday agreement and both sides paramilitaries supposedly having given up all their weapons (which is now widely thought to be a complete falsehood) meant that there would be an end to all violence were wearing rose tinted specs. The old guard may have turned over a new leaf, but there were always going to be others waiting in the wings to rekindle the flame.

The only people connecting this murder to Brexit are on here.......which I find abhorrent!!

Not one news broadcast that I have seen has made a link. Those that think it has been “hunky dory” since the signing of the Good Friday agreement may need to do some research.

I started this thread as I was upset that another young journalists life has been lost whilst carrying out their job.

I will not be posting again on this topic anymore I will let you have your own “little Brexit bun fight”

RIP Lyra Mckee

What an extremely unpleasant and unnecessary post, Jura.

Oh come on Lemon- we all know for sure, whatever side of the debate we are on- that it is BREXIT which is putting the Good Friday Agreement at risk and lighting the smouldering fires. The Press, TV, and of course on the ground - it is Brexit which is fanning the fires.

If you can't or won't see that, than 'eejit' doesn't even begin to cover it.

No point in saying something like that if you're not going to question what could have prevented it happening [imo]….

I imagine that the OP did not want any posters to use this for their Brexit conspiracy theories, but is merely saying how tragic the loss of life is.

Why, did you have a part in any violence in NI recently
Labaik because I certainly didn’t.
So many posters jumping on the Brexit bandwagon that they connect it with anything and everything.
Violence in NI has never really gone away, in or out of the EU ( and we are still in btw.)

I was under the understanding that insults are not acceptable on GN. We all know violence in Derry has been just under the surface but Brexit has allowed it to re-surface with renewed vile force.

There are two kinds of people in the world [imo]. Those who question their part in anything that happens [violence/global warming etc etc] and those who just think 'well, it's nothing to do with me'. I think the latter are the eejits [sorry but it had to be said ….]

Anyone who thinks that Brexit has anything to do with the violence in Derry is an eejit.Sorry, but it has to be said.

Anyone who can't or won't see that it is connected and that B has lit the fuse for a resurgence of violence, is really deluded or worse.

Mention the B word....and couple it with DUP and you have at least the start of a huge problem .Governments who bribe minority parties to back them must accept they will cause problems ..in NI that usually means deaths .

It’s shocking and so so so sad.

I hope the bastards who did this get caught!

If you mention the B word it’s because these bastards are worried Brexit will inhibit their drug trafficking and people trafficking.

They are monsters.

Now learning about the awful unhappiness she suffered because she was gay - NI is an an absolute disgrace in its homophobia - both Catholic and Protestant

Lyra McKee seems to have been murdered by some dissident IRA group. This is the type of thing we got used to during "The Troubles" by has been prevented for the last 21 years following the Good Friday Agreement. Here we are again on another Good Friday mourning the death of someone who was an outspoken campaigner.

It seems that brexit has given a licence to those who want to drive a wedge between the Northern Ireland communities who have lived peacefully together for the last 21 years.

I well remember the murder of Jo Cox MP by a brexit supporter just before the EU referendum which shocked the country. I hoped that those who wanted to divide us would realise how wrong the rhetoric of division was and stop this brexit nonsense from ever happening. I was wrong.

Now, more than ever, we must hope that anyone who disregards the devastating effect that brexit could have on peace on the island of Ireland, will come to their senses and think again.