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Lyra Mckee

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GrannyGravy13 Fri 19-Apr-19 12:03:22

Saddened to hear of the senseless shooting of 29 year old journalist Lyra McKee.

The troubles in Ireland do not seem to have gone away?

Urmstongran Fri 19-Apr-19 12:12:12

Very sad indeed.

Labaik Fri 19-Apr-19 12:27:41

Well, they pretty much had gone away before Brexit #justsaying....

Urmstongran Fri 19-Apr-19 12:36:15

I purposely avoided the ‘B’ word here Labaik

But since you mention it I have to say my first thought was ‘I’m glad Brexit hasn’t even happened yet or it would get the blame’.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 19-Apr-19 12:36:16

No Laibak they hadn't. This thread is not about Brexit, it is about a needless loss of a young woman's life.

There was an ex BBC journalist interviewed on the TV this morning, saying that pipe bombs have been a common occurrence over the years, placed in people's garden.

There have been car bombs since the Good Friday Agreement, all these have continued albeit in a lesser degree, just not reported on!!

LullyDully Fri 19-Apr-19 12:36:41

According to the Today programme it is fuelled by mafia type organisations controlling drugs and smuggling, built on the back of the old troubles. Such sad news.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 19-Apr-19 17:09:13

Very sad Lullydully, a pointless loss of life.

varian Fri 19-Apr-19 18:40:19

Lyra McKee seems to have been murdered by some dissident IRA group. This is the type of thing we got used to during "The Troubles" by has been prevented for the last 21 years following the Good Friday Agreement. Here we are again on another Good Friday mourning the death of someone who was an outspoken campaigner.

It seems that brexit has given a licence to those who want to drive a wedge between the Northern Ireland communities who have lived peacefully together for the last 21 years.

I well remember the murder of Jo Cox MP by a brexit supporter just before the EU referendum which shocked the country. I hoped that those who wanted to divide us would realise how wrong the rhetoric of division was and stop this brexit nonsense from ever happening. I was wrong.

Now, more than ever, we must hope that anyone who disregards the devastating effect that brexit could have on peace on the island of Ireland, will come to their senses and think again.

maryeliza54 Fri 19-Apr-19 19:38:07

Now learning about the awful unhappiness she suffered because she was gay - NI is an an absolute disgrace in its homophobia - both Catholic and Protestant

Mycatisahacker Fri 19-Apr-19 19:42:33

It’s shocking and so so so sad.

I hope the bastards who did this get caught!

If you mention the B word it’s because these bastards are worried Brexit will inhibit their drug trafficking and people trafficking.

They are monsters.

paddyann Fri 19-Apr-19 20:09:38

Mention the B word....and couple it with DUP and you have at least the start of a huge problem .Governments who bribe minority parties to back them must accept they will cause problems NI that usually means deaths .

jura2 Fri 19-Apr-19 21:27:14

Anyone who can't or won't see that it is connected and that B has lit the fuse for a resurgence of violence, is really deluded or worse.

lemongrove Fri 19-Apr-19 21:32:09

Anyone who thinks that Brexit has anything to do with the violence in Derry is an eejit.Sorry, but it has to be said.

Labaik Fri 19-Apr-19 21:37:16

There are two kinds of people in the world [imo]. Those who question their part in anything that happens [violence/global warming etc etc] and those who just think 'well, it's nothing to do with me'. sad I think the latter are the eejits [sorry but it had to be said angry….]

jura2 Fri 19-Apr-19 21:37:27

I was under the understanding that insults are not acceptable on GN. We all know violence in Derry has been just under the surface but Brexit has allowed it to re-surface with renewed vile force.

lemongrove Fri 19-Apr-19 21:42:30

Why, did you have a part in any violence in NI recently
Labaik because I certainly didn’t.
So many posters jumping on the Brexit bandwagon that they connect it with anything and everything.
Violence in NI has never really gone away, in or out of the EU ( and we are still in btw.)

lemongrove Fri 19-Apr-19 21:45:46

I imagine that the OP did not want any posters to use this for their Brexit conspiracy theories, but is merely saying how tragic the loss of life is.

Labaik Fri 19-Apr-19 21:57:32

No point in saying something like that if you're not going to question what could have prevented it happening [imo]….

jura2 Fri 19-Apr-19 22:07:52

Oh come on Lemon- we all know for sure, whatever side of the debate we are on- that it is BREXIT which is putting the Good Friday Agreement at risk and lighting the smouldering fires. The Press, TV, and of course on the ground - it is Brexit which is fanning the fires.

If you can't or won't see that, than 'eejit' doesn't even begin to cover it.

eazybee Sat 20-Apr-19 09:04:34

What an extremely unpleasant and unnecessary post, Jura.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 20-Apr-19 09:28:32

The only people connecting this murder to Brexit are on here.......which I find abhorrent!!

Not one news broadcast that I have seen has made a link. Those that think it has been “hunky dory” since the signing of the Good Friday agreement may need to do some research.

I started this thread as I was upset that another young journalists life has been lost whilst carrying out their job.

I will not be posting again on this topic anymore I will let you have your own “little Brexit bun fight”

RIP Lyra Mckee

Greyduster Sat 20-Apr-19 09:40:10

The death of this journalist is shocking, but Brexit has nothing to do with it. Those who think that the Good Friday agreement and both sides paramilitaries supposedly having given up all their weapons (which is now widely thought to be a complete falsehood) meant that there would be an end to all violence were wearing rose tinted specs. The old guard may have turned over a new leaf, but there were always going to be others waiting in the wings to rekindle the flame.

Grandad1943 Sat 20-Apr-19 09:40:33

Brexit has highlighted that Ireland is a divided nation. The Border has since the independence of Sothern Ireland been an "open wound" for those that believe in a fully independent Ireland under the Dublin government.

The Good Friday agreement made the border at least acceptable to the Nationalists, but Brexit has once again brought forward the issue of the border and that of the divided nation.

The forgoing makes fertile recruiting ground once again for radical Nationalists who wish to bring about that one government Ireland. Proof of that was to be witnessed in the car bomb in Londonderry last month, and now the killing of Lyra McKee.

However, there are always those that do not wish to see that which is plainly in front of them.

Jabberwok Sat 20-Apr-19 10:07:48

As I understand it the ROI are very lukewarm about reunifying with the North! The thought of all those Unionists, Orangemen and other Protestant organisations doesn't fill the Dublin government with any joy at all!!
Also it would appear that Maffia type gangs are taking full advantage of the problems of NI to fuel their drug, prostitution, slavery etc rackets. Brexit?!! Trouble has been brewing long before that!!

Grandad1943 Sat 20-Apr-19 10:27:50

The Dublin government has always been "lukewarm" about unification with the North. However, it is the IRA we are referring to here, and they have a very different agenda to the Irish government.

In regard to drugs, prosecution etc being involved with the radical nationalist cause, that has always been the case throughout the "troubles." In that, how else have they funded their activities, as not all the money came from America.