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Visit of Trump

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maddyone Tue 23-Apr-19 23:43:50

Well Trump has been invited by those at Buckingham Palace to come to Britain for an official state visit. So we can all forget about Brexit, and stop wringing our hands in dismay at Farage and his antics, and we can turn our attention towards a new fashion, hating Trump.

Discuss.

maryeliza54 Fri 26-Apr-19 17:41:46

Well maybe we should not entertain in some of the dreadful heads of state we do.

maryeliza54 Fri 26-Apr-19 17:40:20

Doing an annie there kitty?

kittylester Fri 26-Apr-19 17:39:17

Bit rich of Corbyn when he is happy to hobnob with the IRA and various other lawless organisations. Bercow is just self serving.

Jabberwok Fri 26-Apr-19 17:36:35

Actually its just plain rude! Picking and choosing which head of state you approve of and which you don't is an insult to the guest country. The Queen has over the years entertained some appalling H's of S as have the leaders of the various political parties, its just something you diplomatically do, whether its China (no democracy there, but a welcome from all, including a trip to the H of C!!) Russia ditto, even the frightful Ceausescu got a diplomatic welcome. Mind you I doubt these light weights will be missed, particularly JC,!!!!

maryeliza54 Fri 26-Apr-19 17:36:12

But they wouldn’t snub her anyway because even an ardent republican like me acknowledges she never behaves like DT so what would be their reason?

maryeliza54 Fri 26-Apr-19 17:33:41

Yes I know and it’s a waste of time doing that given where we are at the moment. I could expand on that but there’s more interesting things to,post about

Callistemon Fri 26-Apr-19 17:33:24

Would we like Americans to snub our Queen on a State visit to America - after all, they did object to the monarchy and became independent on 4th July 1776.

Corbyn would not be going on a state visit, even if he was elected PM.

maddyone Fri 26-Apr-19 17:31:27

I think Annie’s just making a hypothetical comparison isn’t she?

maddyone Fri 26-Apr-19 17:30:28

I wouldn’t like them (Americans) to do that Annie, even though I don’t like Corbyn. I suppose that that brings us back to the position, rather than the person.

maryeliza54 Fri 26-Apr-19 17:28:56

Well he isn’t so he hasn’t been so what’s your point?

Anniebach Fri 26-Apr-19 17:14:35

If Corbyn was PM and was snubbed by America !

maddyone Fri 26-Apr-19 17:02:01

Maryeliza grin

maryeliza54 Fri 26-Apr-19 17:01:14

They could hold a People’s Ballot for the empty places?

maddyone Fri 26-Apr-19 16:58:10

Looks like there’ll be a few vacancies at the State Dinner then doesn’t it?

Urmstongran Fri 26-Apr-19 16:22:15

Speaker Bercow and JC have both declined to attend.

maryeliza54 Fri 26-Apr-19 16:00:58

Well all the Americans I know will be jolly pleased he’s not going. Both the Palace and No 10 knew full well what they were doing when they invited DT. They’re grown ups who must live with the consequences of their stupidity and not think they can pressure other grown ups to bend to their will.

Anniebach Fri 26-Apr-19 15:57:05

Corbyn has refused the invitation from the palace too, this is a snub to the people of America

Jane10 Fri 26-Apr-19 15:47:28

I don't actually believe it's possible for any of us to get down to his level. He has shown himself time after time to be beneath contempt. His visit is just a massive embarrassment all round.

EllanVannin Fri 26-Apr-19 14:57:14

Far worse have visited this country in the past and there are even worse who live here.
I feel ashamed thinking about the reception he's going to get.

How many here visit his country ? Double standards again?

maddyone Fri 26-Apr-19 14:30:30

In this at least Maryeliza, we agree. To host these occasions is part of the Queen’s job.

maddyone Fri 26-Apr-19 14:28:26

In fairness to VC, he apparently turned down an invitation to a State Banquet when someone else objectionable made a State visit, I forget who exactly, but have a feeling it might have been the Saudi king.

Whatever, I think he should take a leaf out of the queen’s book, and represent his party and Britain as he has been asked to do. However, I don’t suppose anyone will miss him.
The Queen always represents the best about Britain, quiet dignity and politeness.
I’m not really a great royalist (got one foot in both camps) but she really does do us proud on these occasions, however objectionable the visitor.

maryeliza54 Fri 26-Apr-19 13:59:36

VC wouldn’t be entertaining him - the Q is host and it’s part of her job.

varian Fri 26-Apr-19 13:58:57

Her Majesty has no choice in the matter.

Jabberwok Fri 26-Apr-19 13:53:07

If the Queen can entertain President Trump with courtesy, then I would have thought Vince Cable could!! Perhaps his refusal has more to do with having one eye on his constituents /MP's than any repugnance of the President?!!!

GabriellaG54 Fri 26-Apr-19 13:25:56

IMV, Donald Trump would be easy to get along with.
I agree that some of his claims are outrageous and he has had to backtrack on some policies but, I'm still of the view that he appeals more to the average American than might appear to be the case.
To be blatantly rude to a visiting dignitary, whatever their moral compass, brings you down to below basement level.
Americans are not known for their 'rigidity' as far as rules go except when it comes to their own state occasions. They can appear a bit bullish and 'unrefined' compared to our Royals and we should take that into account.