The priest at Lyras funeral

Did the priest speak of her sexuality today ? I didn’t hear this.

Has he said he does or doesn’t support gay rights ?

She wrote the letter on the impact of growing up in Belfast where homophobia is rife in all churches. Her friends say she was not religious. The priest was RC and refuses to accept that gay people have a right to love each other. My posts are about the hypocrisy of telling others ( in this case politicians) to behave better. She was made very unhappy by how she was made to feel about her sexuality for most of her sadly very short life.

No RC priest supports gay rights ab get real.

I should hope he didn't ab. Why would anyone's sexuality be discussed at their funeral.

I don't get this thread.

Well to be fair, doesn’t support their right to physically express their love. Being able so to do is a pretty fundamental right imo

Really maryeliza you personally know every RC priest?
I think not.

You clearly don’t get my point gg. It’s about hypocrisy and where non-acceptance of people’s rights to love sits with telling politicians how to behave.

I have a sort of "belief" but feel mainly unhappy against organised religion, a feeling that was compounded by the bloody awful "pastor" that my ex husband put in charge when F2f ganged himself (Mrs P, it's quite a long way or me to come to discuss the funeral arrangements for your son, perhaps we could meet in a coffee shop halfway?)

However, I suppose I can sort of explain it like this,

Round white thing in the sky, Sun or moon, take your pick.

Same thing all over the world, but different name in each language.

Supreme being (if there is one) God, Buddha, Jehova, etc, I'm sure you get my drift.

<sigh> ab.

<yawn> maryeliza

I do understand what you mean maryeliza. Still don't think her sexuality need be discussed on a thread about her funeral. Or about anything else actually. That's her business, no one else's. Just sounds like a chance to moan about the RC church. Start a thread.

Sorry maryelisa- I get it now. Just read the Letter to 14 year old self' - how moving. And yes, you are right, and yes, it is so so relevant here.

No you don’t get it gg. It’s the hypocrisy.

Bloody auto corrct, AGAIN! Should have read "when DS2 hanged himself"

Well I guess her life was in people’s minds more then her death.

jura2 how bloody sad.

Here in brum my nearest city there are protests by mainly Muslim parents against teaching how different people live and it’s ok to have 2 dads 2 mums etc.

I think we do need to press on with educating our youngsters that every lifestyle is fine as long as it’s not hurting anyone else. I think the lessons have stopped due to parent pressure.

Sad as they were age appropriate and clearly reading lyras letter much needed.

And her relationship was mentioned at the funeral - as it should have been of course.

phoenix

I am so very sorry for your loss

I don’t know GG her partner was clearly a huge part of her life. I don’t see how it wasn’t mentioned or relevant.

Exactly mycat. Unless we bring up children to value and accepts the whole range of human love and relationships, we sow the seeds for division and hatred and fear. The Church by demonising homosexuality in its core teaching is part of the problem and it’s hypocriticsl to try and be part of any solution.

You think the church made her life a misery because of her homosexuality, and so the priest shouldn't tell politicians to sort out the NI mess, which actually killed her?

Yes

Phoenix I am so sorry...

Lyras was Anglican. And surely her murder not her sexuality was in people’s minds today

Absolutely! Thank you Annie!

A priest summed up feelings about a young life cut short, as Lyra was remembered, with love. His words were fitting. I know threads meander but start another about homosexuality and condemnation of the church rather than detract from the message we heard today.

Well I imagine being gay is hard enough without growing up in a religious household? Must be hell and from her letter it was.

My youngest dd is 20 and in her school there were some gay lads and girls and all the kids supported them and accepted them.

Thankfully but you have to start educating kids young.

I get you Maryelisa pehaps things will change with lyras film being now widely circulated?

Day6

I think you can applaud what the priest said and still point out the hypocrisy.