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The priest at Lyras funeral

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Mycatisahacker Wed 24-Apr-19 17:43:03

Got a standing ovation. Very deserved. Good on him

notanan2 Sat 27-Apr-19 21:54:48

The woman was murdered by the new IRA who were firing at police officers. Her sex life is trivial compared to terrorism

It was HER funeral. It should be about her life not just her death.

Anniebach Sat 27-Apr-19 21:47:48

Ian Paisley is dead and 1969 is 50 years ago. How can you claim all Protestants think like Paisley, you have sunk realy low , you do not know what everyone from every denomination think or feel.

trisher Sat 27-Apr-19 21:37:55

2 quotes from Ian Paisley
"I denounce you, Anti-Christ! I refuse you as Christ's enemy and Antichrist with all your false doctrine" - addressing Pope John Paul II on a visit to the European Parliament October 1988
They breed like rabbits and multiply like vermin" - talking about Catholics at a loyalist rally in 1969.
If that isn't hatred I don't know what is.

Anniebach Sat 27-Apr-19 21:30:28

The woman was murdered by the new IRA who were firing at police officers. Her sex life is trivial compared to terrorism .

As for ‘they hate’, does Corbyn hate May , does the Arch Bishop of Westminster hate the Arch Bishop of Canterbury ,
does the RC priest in this town hate the priest of our Anglican Church, do I hate the RC Nuns in this town because I am Anglican?

The only hate I come across is on this forum.

Gonegirl Sat 27-Apr-19 20:52:11

There's nothing "behind closed doors" about it. Why should there be? Not in this day and age.

annep1 Sat 27-Apr-19 20:50:18

Trisher I have never known any Christians say rhey hate others.

notanan2 Sat 27-Apr-19 20:39:59

Seems the interest with some here is not the woman was murdered but she was gay. Priorities

It was the priest who made an issue of it by avoiding that aspect of her life like its a taboo for behind closed doors only & some posters on here think it should be..

The woman died. She deserves to be remembered for who she was.

Anniebach Sat 27-Apr-19 20:28:08

Seems the interest with some here is not the woman was murdered but she was gay. Priorities !

trisher Sat 27-Apr-19 20:15:24

I will just say one thing. DUP are not hypocritical
I suppose that depends on if you believe that Christianity allows you to hate other Christians because they believe something slightly different to you.

trisher Sat 27-Apr-19 20:10:06

The only gay funeral I have been to the deceased's partner spoke about their life together, what a joy it had been for them to have a civil partnership and how if he had lived they would have married. So no doubt about their sexuality.

annep1 Sat 27-Apr-19 20:09:55

I will just say one thing. DUP are not hypocritical.

annep1 Sat 27-Apr-19 20:09:05

I refuse to comment on RHI because people have their minds made up without alk the facts.
I do wonder about those who get angry and irrational. Not good for the BP.?

Gonegirl Sat 27-Apr-19 20:02:36

I refer you back to my post of 19.38.04.

notanan2 Sat 27-Apr-19 19:59:30

A person should be remembered for who they were.

She was a gay woman in a part of Britain where it is hard to be a gay woman. And she was a journslist. And a friend etc...

Leaving out one important aspect of someones life speaks volumes about the priests view on that aspect.

Silence sometimes roars.

Callistemon Sat 27-Apr-19 19:55:56

the same way you would mention if someone was a devoted teacher, or a keen sports person.
no, I would put devoted teacher or keen sports person in the same category as courageous journalist.

EllanVannin Sat 27-Apr-19 19:55:50

I thought this was all about the unlawful killing/murder of the woman----not her sexuality afaik according to the priest ?

notanan2 Sat 27-Apr-19 19:55:16

Some gay women dont have sex at all. Or have only have sex with men. Dont reduce the experience of living as a gay person to sex!

Callistemon Sat 27-Apr-19 19:54:47

If being gay was a part of someones life I would expect it mentioned in any memorial of their life the same way you would mention if someone was a devoted teacher, or a keen sports person.

I would not expect sexuality to be mentioned - but I would expect someone's OH to be mentioned as just that if they have one - a husband, wife, partner, and how much they must be grieving.

notanan2 Sat 27-Apr-19 19:54:12

Refering to someones sexuality doesnt = talking about their sex life!

The experience of being a gay woman doesnt begin and end when your pants are off hmm

Some gay women

notanan2 Sat 27-Apr-19 19:50:05

Oh FGS its not about "sex"

She wasnt just gay when she was engaging in sex acts.

Gonegirl Sat 27-Apr-19 19:46:40

It wouldn't have crossed his mind to say anything about her sexuality. Neither would it have done at the last funeral he conducted. Or the next. Ad infinitum...

Gonegirl Sat 27-Apr-19 19:42:51

Yes, of course it mattered to her. It's just that priests aren't usually expected to refer to sex at a funeral.

notanan2 Sat 27-Apr-19 19:41:22

I've read the letter. It has nothing to do with what the priest at the funeral said. and everything to do with what he actively avoided saying.

notanan2 Sat 27-Apr-19 19:40:03

I think you remember the person as they were or not at all. Sexuality isnt a major influence on everyones life especially if you conform to the default, but it mattered to her.

Gonegirl Sat 27-Apr-19 19:39:22

I've read the letter. It has nothing to do with what the priest at the funeral said.