The priest at Lyras funeral

I refer you back to my post of 19.38.04.

I refuse to comment on RHI because people have their minds made up without alk the facts.
I do wonder about those who get angry and irrational. Not good for the BP.?

I will just say one thing. DUP are not hypocritical.

The only gay funeral I have been to the deceased's partner spoke about their life together, what a joy it had been for them to have a civil partnership and how if he had lived they would have married. So no doubt about their sexuality.

I will just say one thing. DUP are not hypocritical
I suppose that depends on if you believe that Christianity allows you to hate other Christians because they believe something slightly different to you.

Seems the interest with some here is not the woman was murdered but she was gay. Priorities !

Seems the interest with some here is not the woman was murdered but she was gay. Priorities

It was the priest who made an issue of it by avoiding that aspect of her life like its a taboo for behind closed doors only & some posters on here think it should be..

The woman died. She deserves to be remembered for who she was.

Trisher I have never known any Christians say rhey hate others.

There's nothing "behind closed doors" about it. Why should there be? Not in this day and age.

The woman was murdered by the new IRA who were firing at police officers. Her sex life is trivial compared to terrorism .

As for ‘they hate’, does Corbyn hate May , does the Arch Bishop of Westminster hate the Arch Bishop of Canterbury ,
does the RC priest in this town hate the priest of our Anglican Church, do I hate the RC Nuns in this town because I am Anglican?

The only hate I come across is on this forum.

2 quotes from Ian Paisley
"I denounce you, Anti-Christ! I refuse you as Christ's enemy and Antichrist with all your false doctrine" - addressing Pope John Paul II on a visit to the European Parliament October 1988
They breed like rabbits and multiply like vermin" - talking about Catholics at a loyalist rally in 1969.
If that isn't hatred I don't know what is.

Ian Paisley is dead and 1969 is 50 years ago. How can you claim all Protestants think like Paisley, you have sunk realy low , you do not know what everyone from every denomination think or feel.

The woman was murdered by the new IRA who were firing at police officers. Her sex life is trivial compared to terrorism

It was HER funeral. It should be about her life not just her death.

And once again, talking about being gay doesnt = talking about ones "sex life"

Please stop the conflating of sexuality and sex acts

I've got to say that doesn't sound loving.
But you know we could spend hours swopping quotes/stories about different prominent people on both sides, dead and alive. They aren't just limited to DUP in spite of it being portrayed that way.
It serves no purpose.
Goodnight.

notanan Newsflash: being bessie mates with another female is not the same as being gay. Gay partners have sex. Together.

(We do seem to have rather strayed from "what the priest said"

Good point Anniebach . A big part of the problem in my country is people won't let go of the past.
Goodnight...definitely!

Gonegirl not all gay people have sex you know. Gay people are still gay outside of the bedroom.

Totally now.

I don't this I'll take this any further.

anniebach The matter of Lyra McKee's sexuality was not "trivial" to her, as her words demonstrated when she referred to a pastor who described lesbians living together as "sexual perverts.”

McKee wrote:

“People like Pastor McConnell made 14-year-old me feel like I was better off dead, rather than deal with the shame of being gay.”

I don't think any of the people on here who have been less enamoured by the priest's statement re politicians are filled with hate. They are expressing a view as to its appropriateness, given the church's stance on homosexuality.

Good morning. I have just watched what the priest said before the short televised portion and yes, I get it Good point. I'm glad he said it.
I also saw Leo Varadkar stand after Arlene Foster.
Some people see what they want to see.

The Catholic Church seems to be losing some of the power and influence it once had in Northern Ireland and Eire. The decline is linked to the extent of csa and the way the Church dealt with its exposure. Alongside that, the power of Religion in western societies is diminishing.
The loved ones of Lyra decided to have a religious funeral, which recognised both key faiths of their country.

Presumably, they chose the priest who officiated, which suggests his personal views more reflected what Lyra stood for than a more traditional priest.

I understand maryeliza's mixed feelings about the OP given the anti gay stance of the Catholic Church and the DUP. My own feelings are of sadness and anger at the dreadful murder of this vibrant, kind young woman. She lost her life, her loved ones will suffer her loss for the rest of their lives. I can only hope that her name will be remembered and perhaps that her brutal murder will reinforce the belief amongst younger people in NI who condemn bombings, murders, criminal activity - whichever 'side' of the ongoing troubles the thugs represent.
It's too easy to take simplistic sides in this kind of discussion. The real difficulty lies with the politicians who seem still to be totally unable to put their bigoted views aside and work actively together for peace.

I don’t think that SF are being bigoted for wanting same sex marriage to be legislated. The last vote for it was passed but the DUP used something called a ‘petition of concern’ to stop it being enacted. This it seems to me partly explains why SF want some firm commitments on some issues such as this and the Irish Language before they will go back into power sharing. The DUP acted in bad faith ( ha) re the petition of concern and we’ve seen their behaviour over here so I don’t think it’s taking sides to think they’re not to be trusted without prior commitments bring made. Also it’s not taking sides to accuse the DUP of wanting its cake and eating it by picking and choosing which bits of UK values and laws it subscribes to.