The priest at Lyras funeral

Marriage between same sex couples is not allowed in the Anglican Church, an Anglican priest can choose to bless the Couple after a civil ceremony.

Pity this thread has moved quickly from the fears of the people in NI that the dark days of ‘the troubles’ could return
to same sex marriage

Anniebach

I do understand that people have sincere beliefs of course they do but I think those beliefs should be personal? So you believe what you think is right but accept other people have other sincere views and rights.

I thought some Anglican vicars married same sex couples?? I thought it was their choice???

Easy? When you say 'church' what do you mean?

There are virtually 100s of different Christian denominations - with massively different attitudes to many things- Some have evolved, some have not. Some believe the earth is flat and that Evolution does not exist.

Why should a church change it’s teaching ? You approve of hypocrisy?

I get irritated by atheists who criticise people of faith , being an atheist is such an easy path.

I don't think it is just the Roman Catholic church either - other religions preach against it too.

Look what is happening in Brunei for instance.

Mycatisahacker the Anglican Church does not accept marriage between same sex couples, I don’t accept this is bigotry

She said herself that what the church said about it being evil and she would go to hell deeply affected her. Hence the letter. If the church changed its teaching then surely this would impact positively across society in general?

I may be old fashioned but I didn’t think one clapped in church?
Well, I go very rarely but I have clapped in church on several occasions in the past.

Day6

Mad isn’t it!

No Anniebach sorry of course the C of E accept and embrace all?? I think??? Dodgy ground here as not religious and know some of no religion who are bigots.

Are all with a religious belief less accepting of homosexuality than those of no faith *Mycatisahacker?

Of course I think it must be. but surely the average house hold (not religious in Britain) must be more accepting than those with a strong religious belief? Maybe I don’t know as not been there or my kids. Obviously there are ignorant bigots everywhere

She was made very unhappy by how she was made to feel about her sexuality for most of her sadly very short life

I truly sympathise, but isn't that the case with many, many young homosexuals, whether they have religion or not? Coming out is a big deal for many people, still. (It shouldn't be, but declaring it to parents, relatives, friends, colleagues, the world, is a scary step for many.)

Day6

I think you can applaud what the priest said and still point out the hypocrisy.

Well I imagine being gay is hard enough without growing up in a religious household? Must be hell and from her letter it was.

My youngest dd is 20 and in her school there were some gay lads and girls and all the kids supported them and accepted them.

Thankfully but you have to start educating kids young.

I get you Maryelisa pehaps things will change with lyras film being now widely circulated?

Lyras was Anglican. And surely her murder not her sexuality was in people’s minds today

Absolutely! Thank you Annie!

A priest summed up feelings about a young life cut short, as Lyra was remembered, with love. His words were fitting. I know threads meander but start another about homosexuality and condemnation of the church rather than detract from the message we heard today.

Phoenix I am so sorry...

Yes

You think the church made her life a misery because of her homosexuality, and so the priest shouldn't tell politicians to sort out the NI mess, which actually killed her?

Exactly mycat. Unless we bring up children to value and accepts the whole range of human love and relationships, we sow the seeds for division and hatred and fear. The Church by demonising homosexuality in its core teaching is part of the problem and it’s hypocriticsl to try and be part of any solution.

I don’t know GG her partner was clearly a huge part of her life. I don’t see how it wasn’t mentioned or relevant.

phoenix

I am so very sorry for your loss

And her relationship was mentioned at the funeral - as it should have been of course.

Well I guess her life was in people’s minds more then her death.

jura2 how bloody sad.

Here in brum my nearest city there are protests by mainly Muslim parents against teaching how different people live and it’s ok to have 2 dads 2 mums etc.

I think we do need to press on with educating our youngsters that every lifestyle is fine as long as it’s not hurting anyone else. I think the lessons have stopped due to parent pressure.

Sad as they were age appropriate and clearly reading lyras letter much needed.

Bloody auto corrct, AGAIN! Should have read "when DS2 hanged himself"