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The embarrassment of the Tories

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 26-Apr-19 08:10:54

“It is said that those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad”
This is a quote in a newspaper editorial, which I thought extremely apt.
The editorial is headed
“Britain is being ruled by a party that has lost its political bearings”
Goes on to outline the reckless ill discipline so evident in the government, and in particular the leak over the Huawei decision, which defied two of the fundamental rules of British government -

Collective responsibility and official secrecy.

We can rely on neither of those concepts with this dreadful government.

If a government fails in such fundamentals it has failed completely.

Beammeupscottie Wed 22-May-19 14:48:37

David Cameron is now telling us to vote LibDem!
The only Party for Remainers

Whitewavemark2 Wed 22-May-19 14:38:04

They can’t afford to get rid of them. They are needed to vote for the next Leader.

varian Wed 22-May-19 14:34:00

Tory ex-deputy prime minister Michael Heseltine will vote Lib Dem in European elections. He has said he cannot endorse Conservative stance on brexit. As a result he has been kicked out of the Conservative group in the House of Lords.

Meanwhile, it seems that a large number of Conservative Party members have declared they will vote for Farage's Brexit Party because they cannot endorse Conservative stance on brexit. How many of them have been kicked out of the party?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 22-May-19 14:21:51

Listening to May this afternoon, I am wondering whether she will still be PM tomorrow!

Whitewavemark2 Wed 22-May-19 10:17:17

No votes in the North for the Tories, so they can afford to put another few thousand into poverty. Let’s clos e the Steel works

Who cares? Not the Tories.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 22-May-19 10:15:37

The Tories are scrambling to try to get the report by the UN on child poverty withdrawn.

This report must be one of the most embarrassing reports that the U.K. has faced.

They are accusing it of being political. How on earth could it have been anything else?

The report quotes Hobbes in describing live for the poor in the U.K. as being, “solitary, nasty, brutish and short”

“The Tory government persisted with policies of austerity and welfare cuts despite clear evidence that large scale poverty was persisting and growing.
In doing so “ much of the glue that held British society together since the Second World War has been deliberately removed and replaced with a harsh and uncaring ethos. British compassion has been replaced with a punitive, mean-spirited and often callous approach apparently designed to impose a rigid order on the lives of people least able to cope.
Austerity has deliberately gutted. LAs, shrinking libraries, youth,police and park services to the extent that there are now unheard of levels of loneliness, and isolation.”

If this evil, malevolent government returns to power, we will truly know that the U.K. has entirely lost any decent values or compassion it once so proudly held

Whitewavemark2 Wed 22-May-19 09:12:42

Why on earth doesn’t May call it a day, because at least she would be wasting less time. This isn’t a vanity project this is our future.

varian Tue 21-May-19 18:29:26

I think our dreadful government and its so-called negotiators must have, by now, tested the patience of the rest of the EU to its limits.

However, although our MPs have not done a good job over the last three years, they have at least decided not to permit a no-deal brexit which would irrevocably harm our country for the foreseeable future.

They therefore have a duty to either REvoke Article 50 or to enable a People's Vote.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 21-May-19 18:20:44

So now the question is, will the EU be prepared to go through this again with the next idiot, or will they call time and say no deal?

Mycatisahacker Tue 21-May-19 18:10:03

So have labour!

She knows it! She will leave saying ‘I did my best but I was thwarted’

I would state labours position but quite frankly I don’t actually know it!!! That fence must hurt!

varian Tue 21-May-19 18:03:46

IDS and other Tory brexiters have just rubbished her latest "deal"

Whitewavemark2 Tue 21-May-19 17:43:50

I don’t think she stands a snowballs chance to be honest.

Beammeupscottie Tue 21-May-19 17:34:33

I do wonder if it will scrape through because of the fear of the damage splinter Parties could cause to both main parties in the future.

Mycatisahacker Tue 21-May-19 16:53:21

Beth Rigby doesn’t think she will get it passed

Mycatisahacker Tue 21-May-19 16:50:59

I thought she was far less robotic than usual though!

It all hangs on the European elections I think how MPs will vote or not for the deal.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 21-May-19 16:33:44

May just finished making the same speech she has been making for the past 3 years.

It is her swan song.

Urmstongran Tue 21-May-19 10:31:45

The Tories aren’t healing this Brexit rift any time soon.

Hammond v Leadsom now.

varian Tue 21-May-19 07:55:12

This may seem very trivial compared to the problems this country is facing, but it illustrates just how untrustworthy Boris Johnson is, yet he could soon be PM.

www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/boris-johnson-urged-to-repay-garden-bridge-whiff-whaff-donation/10042637.article#footer

Whitewavemark2 Mon 20-May-19 10:05:24

How will they explain this away?

Denial as usual? Eventually people are going to cotton on and understand the lies and agenda if this feeble and malevolent government

www.independent.co.uk/news/hunger-food-poverty-welfare-benefits-universal-credit-uk-poor-report-human-rights-watch-a8920961.html

MaizieD Mon 20-May-19 08:40:01

Dulwich College. It's along the same lines as Etton. For the entitled...

Bridgeit Mon 20-May-19 08:31:01

Very true , Whitewavemark2,
So where did NF get the same egotistical attitude from?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 20-May-19 08:14:08

The critics are having real fun with Rees Mogg latest contribution to the world of historical literature.
Being described as the kind of sentimental jingoism and empire nostalgia currently inflicting our country.

He must choke over his cornflakes every morning.

The vanity of these people, who have not one ounce of self doubt. These are what is inflicting our country.
Eton seems have a lot to answer for.
We are it seems in severe danger of having another ex-Etonian, again with seemingly no self doubt, who ability knows no starting point, as the next Tory leader.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 20-May-19 08:02:04

When we glibly talk about a billion this or 3 billion that, I wonder just how much we appreciate a billion is? I certainly didn’t until I heard the bit of useless information.

It would take 8 days to count to 1 million.

It would take 31 Years to count to 1 billion.

Now I appreciate the level of money we are talking about???

Whitewavemark2 Mon 20-May-19 07:51:41

Oh how well done Tories - since coming to power have not only succeeded in reversing the success in reducing child poverty, the U.K. has now reached levels not seen since the Victorian Era, but we now find that Human Rights Watch have reported that the Tory government are pursuing CRUEL AND HARMFUL Policies with regard to their impact on children living in poverty.

Who said “we are seen as the nasty party” ? Oh yes May. That is about the only correct insightful statement she has ever made.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 19-May-19 17:58:47

Number 4 vote coming up. I suspect this will be the last though.

infacts.org/may-wanted-mps-to-vote-on-4-fantasy-customs-proposals/