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Next Tory Leader.

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 07-May-19 08:33:25

Names are coming along at a regular basis, and with May having a meeting with Brady today, it is likely that she will be persuaded to give a date of her departure.

So let’s start looking at who would make the most suitable Tory leader.

The first out of the hat is Boris Johnson.
His first hurdle is facing court to defend the charge of lying before the referendum.
www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/date-set-for-court-against-boris-johnson-1-6034496

lemongrove Tue 28-May-19 19:57:42

‘There is not a single Tory politician who ever put country before party’ you say Varian......an incredibly sweeping statement if ever I heard one.

I know that Boris is the favourite, but the favourite doesn’t usually win in the Conservative Party.
I’m hoping Raab will win it. Maybe a sweepstake is in order.

Anniebach Tue 28-May-19 19:47:24

Really varian ? You must have been devasted when Clegg stood in the rose garden with Cameron, you must have felt so betray

Callistemon Tue 28-May-19 19:46:47

I did like the Larry joke, GillT57 - but we are always getting into trouble for derailing threads!!

varian Tue 28-May-19 18:59:18

Jeremy Hunt has warned that a no-deal brexit would be "suicidal" for the Tory Party. No mention of the damage it would do to the country. There is not a single Tory politician who ever put country before party. TM certainly never did, nor did Cameron.

maryeliza54 Tue 28-May-19 18:54:10

That’s what RS said - ie he’s on MG’s side.

Anniebach Tue 28-May-19 18:51:21

Gove rather than Johnson

maryeliza54 Tue 28-May-19 18:48:46

Apparently a Tory source has called RS a suicide bomber in that he is clearing the way for MG. Nice metaphor there.

Anniebach Tue 28-May-19 16:27:31

I like Rory Stewart too.

maddyone Tue 28-May-19 16:15:18

Just got in and sitting down with a cup of tea and decided to have a look to see what you’ve all been up to this morning.

Gill, love the Larry the cat joke, I saw that on television too grin

I like Rory Stewart, he seems sensible and pragmatic and doesn’t believe we should leave without a deal. However, I think he’s probably not got a lot of chance.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 28-May-19 15:12:29

It is odd. Maybe they have a cunning plan?

GillT57 Tue 28-May-19 15:11:37

I think they are all jockeying, doing the 'after you' bit, making alliances ( remember Gove and Johnson?), it will be like the Tudor court with all the promising and plotting.

GillT57 Tue 28-May-19 15:10:10

I do wonder how serious some of the so called candidates are though. I would have thought that most would be looking to be 'the one after next' because I think we can be sure that whoever is the next PM is going to fail. Why would it be otherwise? Same party split, same HoC split, same country split, nothing has changed, in fact if anything it is more uncertain from the Brexit point as the Brexit party did not get the resounding victory they expected. As for Raab, where has he been for the past few years? It has been proven time and time again that austerity politics does not work, and yet, there he was on Marr on Sunday morning, talking about tax cuts. Tax cuts which will mean cuts to public services.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 28-May-19 14:49:12

Wouldn’t put anything past them

Labaik Tue 28-May-19 14:43:48

Didn't Margaret Thatcher negotiate a very good pension for retired PM's? [not saying that all candidates would do it for that reason, but some might...]

Whitewavemark2 Tue 28-May-19 14:36:51

What does puzzle me is that given how Brexit has destroyed so many Tory leaders that they are willing to put their names forward.

maryeliza54 Tue 28-May-19 14:31:49

But ww you’re begging the question - suitable for what? The greater good, the long term national interest, keeping them in power? If it were RS I would feel more hopeful but he’s for another day.

Anniebach Tue 28-May-19 14:24:49

Had a mini panic, SKY news on, sound off, glanced at screen , Jeremy Clarkson, one of my dogs had sat on the channel hopper

Whitewavemark2 Tue 28-May-19 14:24:36

I am not convinced that any of them would be suitable.

maryeliza54 Tue 28-May-19 14:22:27

OK back on thread - the current list obviously contains many names who are just putting themselves forward in order to drop out later on the basis of a promise of a job from whoever they then decide to back. There’s lots of game playing at this stage ( not a criticism, just a statement of the obvious). Who do I think would make a good leader - I can’t answer that - what is a good leader, good for what. All that will matter is which person will be most likely to keep them in power. Is there a disconnect or otherwise between what many of the public would like and the membership want? BJ would seem to tick both boxes. SJ would never make it - the grass roots will never elect him for obvious reasons. In the final analysis, staying in power is all that will matter.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 28-May-19 14:22:10

And he’s good at having doors opened for him.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 28-May-19 14:21:11

gill love it??

Rowantree Tue 28-May-19 14:21:08

Larry is the only candidate with any integrity.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 28-May-19 14:19:55

Hunt’s come out against no deal.

Rowantree Tue 28-May-19 14:19:54

Loving this thread and totally with maryeliza's points. Spot on.

GillT57 Tue 28-May-19 14:19:47

Larry has dignity and purpose. Compare and contrast.....

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