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Whitewavemark2 Tue 07-May-19 08:33:25

Names are coming along at a regular basis, and with May having a meeting with Brady today, it is likely that she will be persuaded to give a date of her departure.

So let’s start looking at who would make the most suitable Tory leader.

The first out of the hat is Boris Johnson.
His first hurdle is facing court to defend the charge of lying before the referendum.
www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/date-set-for-court-against-boris-johnson-1-6034496

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-May-19 16:26:42

What a charlatan

Boris Johnson
@BorisJohnson
· 5h
A very dignified statement from @theresa_may. Thank you for your stoical service to our country and the Conservative Party. It is now time to follow her urgings: to come together and deliver Brexit.

GillT57 Fri 24-May-19 16:21:10

It is all most unedifying. If a gun was to be held to my head, I would select someone like Rory Stewart or Jeremy Hunt. Despite their 'nasty party' credentials, they at least are capable of conducting themselves with dignity and professionalism, especially overseas.

Beammeupscottie Fri 24-May-19 13:49:26

Does anyone remember Boris stating, after DC's resignation, that he didn't consider himself suitable PM material, so wouldn't stand? He was right, of course, but he is capable of winning (they hope) an election for the Tories on a populist ticket.

newnanny Fri 24-May-19 13:24:33

Nothing wrong with Esther McVey Whitewave. She resigned as she recognised that May was not doing what she promised in her manifesto, to leave on March 29th. Rees Mogg has already said he does not want to stand and is backing Boris.

Anniebach Fri 24-May-19 13:03:07

Who can sort out brexit. The conservative and labour parties are split .

GillT57 Fri 24-May-19 12:59:52

I too jura find myself agreeing with Nicola Sturgeon, she sums it up I think. I really do wonder what MPs (and GN) think a new leader of the Tory party is going to achieve? This whole business is unsolveable, too many polarised opinions in and out of HoC, and at the risk of repeating the bloody obvious, 17.4 m votes cannot be allowed to change the future of 66m. This is not GE, the result cannot be changed in 5 years. I agree with many on here, on both sides, that our current system is broken, but while we keep moving the deckchairs on The Titanic by changing Tory party leader, and while we have Corbyn wittering away ineffectually on the opposition benches, we are in the a right old mess. At least Vince Cable has stood fast to his opinions, not like Corbyn who must have an arse full of splinters from sitting on the fence for so long. Sorry about the cursing, but it would make a nun swear.

Mycatisahacker Fri 24-May-19 12:36:40

Indeed and that decision will loose labour the next election unless they oust Corbyn.

MawBroonsback Fri 24-May-19 12:30:33

From eazybee: Once again, we do not elect a Prime Minister, we elect a Party, and the Leader of that Party, (elected by its members, before and/or after an election) becomes Prime Minister.

Yes, yes indeed Gonegirl

And look what happened when the rank and file membership elected the Leader of the LP- massively against the opinions of the parliamentary LP - its elected members.

MawBroonsback Fri 24-May-19 12:27:07

confused

MawBroonsback Fri 24-May-19 12:26:45

??? [ confused]

Bridgeit Fri 24-May-19 12:22:46

Our country is in serious trouble if Boris becomes our next PM
There are far more competent contenders .

Mycatisahacker Fri 24-May-19 12:00:44

Maw

Says she with a flounce grin

Whitewavemark2 Fri 24-May-19 12:00:23

Very surprised

Gonegirl Fri 24-May-19 11:59:56

I think we might be surprised at just how "clever, clear-headed and competent" Boris Johnson can be.

Mycatisahacker Fri 24-May-19 11:59:34

our politics is broken. We need to completely overhaul our voting system and first of all revoke article 50

So to overhaul the system we need to ignore the biggest democratic vote in the countries history and completely throw away the promises of both main parties to carry out Brexit.

Yes that would surely sort the divisions in the country. hmmhmm

Gonegirl Fri 24-May-19 11:58:29

From eazybee: Once again, we do not elect a Prime Minister, we elect a Party, and the Leader of that Party, (elected by its members, before and/or after an election) becomes Prime Minister.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Exactly.

Get it into your flippin' heads. hmm

MawBroonsback Fri 24-May-19 11:57:52

Mycatetc - I might have more confidence that you have any idea what you are banging on about however, if you got it right.
And in the nasty stakes, (as if I cared) there a quite a few serious contenders

Mycatisahacker Fri 24-May-19 11:51:54

Right Maw still bless you.

One word of advice though there will be posters who perhaps can’t spell or like me use their phones as they are very busy doing other things so you do make yourself sound a tad silly and ,of course,for posters who can’t spell, well just nasty.

MawBroonsback Fri 24-May-19 11:46:26

You always know when a poster can’t win the debate when they correct a phone spelling error

Not trying to win any debate with you mycatisahacker but I do appreciate accuracy in your terms of reference.
Don’t blame the phone! .

MawBroonsback Fri 24-May-19 11:41:56

Her departure will not solve the Brexit mess that the Tories have created. Only putting the matter back to the people can do that. Given current circumstances, it also feels deeply wrong for another Tory to be installed in Number 10 without a General Election

Not often I agree with Nicola Sturgeon! .

jura2 Fri 24-May-19 11:38:36

Nicola says it well, I think:

'I wish Theresa May well. She and I had profound disagreements - not least on her handling of Brexit and her disregard for Scotland’s interests. However, leadership is tough - especially in these times - and she deserves thanks for her service.

Her departure will not solve the Brexit mess that the Tories have created. Only putting the matter back to the people can do that. Given current circumstances, it also feels deeply wrong for another Tory to be installed in Number 10 without a General Election.

The prospect of an even more hardline Brexiteer now becoming PM and threatening a no deal exit is deeply concerning. Added to the experience of the past three years, this makes it all the more important that Scotland is given the choice of becoming an independent country.'

varian Fri 24-May-19 11:37:09

Our politics is broken. We need to completly overhaul our voting system before we have a general election, but the first thing to be done is to revoke article 50 to avert disaster.

Ginny42 Fri 24-May-19 11:36:50

WendyBT I'd pay to see that!

Ginny42 Fri 24-May-19 11:32:16

Gonegirl, we have a Government whose job it should be to ensure that the standard of living in no areas of the United Kingdom fall to unacceptable levels of poverty. Certainly not to the extent that the United Nations publish a damning report describing areas of the UK experiencing levels of poverty similar to life in the workhouses of the past. The poor have been abandoned to simply live with steep cuts in benefits, for whom food banks have become the norm in some areas, accompanied by rising levels of homelessness and sleeping on the streets.

What the people living in Oxfordshire and Berkshire can do is at least to show some empathy and to care about the levels of poverty and insecurity some people are enduring and to put pressure on the Government to ensure the wellbeing of all citizens.

Mycatisahacker Fri 24-May-19 11:26:50

I think the European elections will be fascinating to see if there has been much movement amongst the general public.

My thoughts are Brexit and Lib Dem’s gain and labour and Tory massive losses.

A general election probably is needed so people can select and deselect MPs according to their Brexit/remain stance.

Fascinating

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