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Next Tory Leader.

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 07-May-19 08:33:25

Names are coming along at a regular basis, and with May having a meeting with Brady today, it is likely that she will be persuaded to give a date of her departure.

So let’s start looking at who would make the most suitable Tory leader.

The first out of the hat is Boris Johnson.
His first hurdle is facing court to defend the charge of lying before the referendum.
www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/date-set-for-court-against-boris-johnson-1-6034496

Anniebach Mon 10-Jun-19 09:05:10

Because one candidate speaks of tax cuts a cry for a general
election . I will wait to hear the other candidates.

I too think Gove is toast now.

Grandad1943 Mon 10-Jun-19 09:19:54

I believe that it's an odds on certainty that those one hundred thousand Shire Tories will ensure that Boris (The Buffoon) Johnson is the next Prime Minister of Britain. He is undoubtedly singing their music with talk of tax cuts for the rich, deregulation despite that having cost lives under a Tory government already, and of course his islamophobic writings.

Just what those Shire Tories want to hear.

Boris is home and dry.

Urmstongran Mon 10-Jun-19 09:21:16

And Hunt recently revealed his "personal reservations" on abortion, but of course he would never dream of making them his declared policy, until the "will of the people" demand it!

Yet Amber Rudd now says she backs him.

Urmstongran Mon 10-Jun-19 09:21:56

No I don’t think Boris will win.

My money’s on Raab.

Grandad1943 Mon 10-Jun-19 09:37:41

Urmstongran Quote [No I don’t think Boris will win.
My money’s on Raab.] End Quote.

So, support for someone who would wish to see the suspension of the House of Commons to get his way on Brexit.

I believed that Brexit was all about gaining powers for the United Kingdom Parliament. I seem to remember a slogan by the Brexiteers during the referendum campaign which stated something about "Taking Back Control".

Anyway off to the office now, see you later.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 10-Jun-19 09:39:00

grandad if he is one of the last two standing he is a shoe in as far as the shires is concerned.

You have to ask yourself where their moral base is?

Someone whose declared intention to take more from the poor to further enrich the better off.

Someone who constantly lies
Someone who failed as foreign secretary.

This list is endless. What sort of person votes for such as he?

Urmstongran Mon 10-Jun-19 09:42:32

I didn’t say I agreed with his idea of a prorogued Parliament although I can see the attraction - imagine wanting to get Brexit through the HoC which is stuffed full of Remainers!

No I just have a feeling it won’t be Boris. I said Raab at the very beginning of this thread. I wish I’d called in at the bookies when the odds would’ve been great!
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I hope Ester McVey gets into the Cabinet and THIS TIME let’s have more Brexiteers than Remainers. ..... and deliver Brexit!!

Gonegirl Mon 10-Jun-19 09:47:14

Anniebach I too think Gove is toast now.

Really? But only on Saturday you thought his taking cocaine didn't matter.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 10-Jun-19 09:49:08

Raab won’t get it. The only way is if Boris, Gove are knocked out. And then giving his willingness to kill democracy over Brexit I think he stands very little chance. He is too dangerous to the U.K.

Callistemon Mon 10-Jun-19 09:52:16

So - could someone please remind me - what exactly was the problem with Theresa May?

She would appear to have all the virtues that varian and I were discussing grin

Whitewavemark2 Mon 10-Jun-19 09:53:52

The extraordinary thing is that we know from the demographics that the poorer and more working class you were the more likely you voted for Brexit, and yet Johnson is willing to s...t on them from a great height by raising their NI in order to pay for the tax cuts for those who are managing OK.

The man is a b......d of the highest order.

Ilovecheese Mon 10-Jun-19 09:56:26

Esther McVey is also appealing to the Tory Party membership by saying she would spend less money on foreign aid.

I didn't know that about Michael Gove and teachers, that does rather make him even more of a hypocrite.

Urmstongran Mon 10-Jun-19 09:59:28

The problem with Theresa May is that Olly Robbins was her wingman.

And so the pair of them sneakily tried to get her rotten deal past her Cabinet at Chequers - so bad that the one she presented there was not the one David Davies (her Brexit Minister!!) had been involved with. Such duplicitous behaviour.

Hence he resigned.

Politics is a dirty business.

Urmstongran Mon 10-Jun-19 10:07:51

Actually I agree about foreign aid. A set percentage got silly. Money ‘had to be spent’ by the department and I remember reading articles where donations to whacky diversity projects were sent to some countries.

Yes give aid to alleviate suffering.

But carnival and theatre projects? Nah.

Callistemon Mon 10-Jun-19 10:09:27

David Davis, not Davies, Urm

Not correcting your spelling for the sake of it, btw, just that David Davies is a different MP - and a staunch Brexiteer.

Urmstongran Mon 10-Jun-19 10:21:42

Thanks Callistemon
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Well 6 candidates have already passed the threshold (the backing of eight other Tory MPs) ...

Boris Johnson (61)
Michael Gove (34)
Jeremy Hunt (34)
Dominic Raab (24)
Sajid Javid (19)
Matthew Hancock (12)

GrannyGravy13 Mon 10-Jun-19 10:39:05

Bo-Jo still favourite???

Sprout Mon 10-Jun-19 10:44:48

Oh come on Boris is strait talking and will get things done one way or the other Teresa May has kept us on a piece of string after all she was always a remained.

Urmstongran Mon 10-Jun-19 10:46:37

Seems like it GG13

Whitewavemark2 Mon 10-Jun-19 10:47:06

sprout ???? It will be first time in his life then.

Gonegirl Mon 10-Jun-19 10:50:10

will get things done one way or the other

But who will we trade with in the days/weeks/months after he crashes us out?! shock There will be no deals set up.

Gonegirl Mon 10-Jun-19 10:51:04

Who will we make knickers for?

Gonegirl Mon 10-Jun-19 10:51:31

Yes, I do get my education from Coronation Street.

GillT57 Mon 10-Jun-19 12:31:34

I too think Gove is toast. Not because he couldn't do the job but just imagine, if he was PM, what credibility would he have with a Law & Order issue? He is unlikely to have the support of senior Police if he demands that they criminalise members of the public for something which he has admitted doing. I am not necessarily criticising him for taking cocaine, that is not my business, but what is my business is that as Education Secretary he took a hard stand on teachers who may have experimented with drugs all the time knowing that he had done so himself. Also, a point of law; he will not be able to travel to USA unless he lies on his ESTA, how will that work? No, he is finished as PM candidate and certainly couldn't ever be Home Secretary either.

crystaltipps Mon 10-Jun-19 12:37:42

Johnson is hardly squeaky clean when it comes to personal morality.

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