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Next Tory Leader.

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 07-May-19 08:33:25

Names are coming along at a regular basis, and with May having a meeting with Brady today, it is likely that she will be persuaded to give a date of her departure.

So let’s start looking at who would make the most suitable Tory leader.

The first out of the hat is Boris Johnson.
His first hurdle is facing court to defend the charge of lying before the referendum.
www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/date-set-for-court-against-boris-johnson-1-6034496

Labaik Wed 12-Jun-19 22:50:06

By Boris Johnson
12:01AM BST 21 Jun 2007

It's the arrogance. It's the contempt. That's what gets me. It's Gordon Brown's apparent belief that he can just trample on the democratic will of the British people. It's at moments like this that I think the political world has gone mad, and I am alone in detecting the gigantic fraud.
Everybody seems to have forgotten that the last general election was only two years ago, in 2005. A man called Tony Blair presented himself for re-election, and his face was to be seen - even if less prominently than in the past - on manifestos, leaflets, television screens and billboards. We rather gathered from the Labour prospectus that said Blair was going to be Prime Minister. Indeed, Tony sought a new mandate from the British electorate with the explicit promise that he would serve a full term.
The British public sucked its teeth, squinted at him closely, sighed and, with extreme reluctance, decided to elect him Prime Minister for another five years. Let me repeat that. They voted for Anthony Charles Lynton Blair to serve as their leader. They were at no stage invited to vote on whether Gordon Brown should be PM.

Grandad1943 Tue 11-Jun-19 10:39:10

GabriellaG54 Quote [ When I wrote about 'living in a bubble' in an earlier post, I was referring to friends in my area, not my AC or wider family.
There is an unspoken acceptance of
keeping things the same.] End Quote

GabriellaG54, you are a forum member who has often passionately stated you wish to see Britain leave the European Union. Therefore, could you please explain how anyone with such views can hold an "undspoken acceptance of keeping things the same."?

Iam64 Tue 11-Jun-19 10:05:00

I wondered about that GGm3, whather the conservatives will split and Rory Stewart move to a different party. The Lib Dem’s seems more likely than Labour or the Breens. Pity the Change Party fell apart. We need a better option than FPTP

GrannyGravy13 Tue 11-Jun-19 10:01:39

Whoever gets the "top job" if the UK is still in the EU on 1st November the Conservative Party is finished.

Ginny42 Tue 11-Jun-19 09:48:35

I see Esther McVey had a framed portrait of Margaret Thatcher on the table at her launch. shock confused

What pretentious nonsense trying to implant the notion that she is another MT. Is that what people want to go back to?

GracesGranMK3 Tue 11-Jun-19 09:36:05

What could happen to get Rory Stewart in as next leader? (ok a miracle)

I think there is much more bad stuff to go through. But I do think the Conservative Party will split. That may lead to a good change - who knows. Rory Stewart sounds more in the Lib Dem/Social Democratic mould to me. I know his voting record puts him as pure Tory but I wonder if he might get to do some good in the end.

MawBroonsback Tue 11-Jun-19 08:59:56

Given that NF is not even a member of the Conservative party, that is not going to happen GG is it? hmm
Bo Jo may not be quite the buffoon he pretend to be but his endless gaffes (if calculated, as many suspect) make him a very loose cannon. hmm

GabriellaG54 Tue 11-Jun-19 08:56:59

I would like to see Nigel Farage in the top job but as it's unlikely to happen yet...my hope is for either Esther or Boris.

GabriellaG54 Tue 11-Jun-19 08:54:20

When I wrote about 'living in a bubble' in an earlier post, I was referring to friends in my area, not my AC or wider family.
There is an unspoken acceptance of keeping things the same.
I leave readers to determine as to whom the 'outsiders' may be.
It certainly isn't my view but then, I haven't lived here as long as they have.

Glenfinnan Tue 11-Jun-19 08:51:08

Think it will be Boris.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 11-Jun-19 08:45:51

Well judging by the report on members attitudes, Stewart might just as well give up now! The only possible saviour is if the members of Parliament think of the country over the Tory party. What chance is there of that?

We can only pray that a hard right leader is not foisted on the country by the tiniest of tiny minorities. I think it is right to feel very aggrieved at this, given what a state the country is in and given what is potentially ahead of us.

I suspect that the U.K. has gone down the list of democratic nations.

Iam64 Tue 11-Jun-19 08:37:32

Wbitewave, you just made my wet, grey, dismal morning here feel a bit worse, thanks!

If we have a general election soon after Boris is appointed, who will win it?

What could happen to get Rory Stewart in as next leader? (ok a miracle)

Whitewavemark2 Tue 11-Jun-19 08:07:24

Looking at various reports about Tory party members attitudes and undoubtedly attitudes by some on this forum, we can give a pretty educated guess who will be the leader when 100000+ People vote for the next prime minister and to an extent the policies to be pursued over the next few years.
The following figures have been taken from “politico”

Most Tory members would prefer a no deal -
Most Tory members do not think austerity has gone far enough
Most Tory members do not believe in wealth distribution of any kind
Most Tory members believe in the death penalty.

Just the sort of people I like to socialise with???????

Iam64 Tue 11-Jun-19 07:54:19

The latest from Boris confirms what a cheat he is. We have seen it in his personal and political life so far and the suggestion we don't pay what's owing to the EU and use that money to fund tax cuts for people who are better off than most stinks. Put simply, if you decide to leave your gym/golf club early, you still pay the whole of the annual subscription you signed up to.

Ginny42 Tue 11-Jun-19 07:35:11

Oh yes, and the money for Boris' tax cut is going to come from the money set aside for a no deal Brexit, so is he pledging that we will leave with a deal then?

Ginny42 Tue 11-Jun-19 07:31:12

I'm actually shocked that Boris Johnson kicked off his campaign by pledging an income tax cut for those earning more than £50,000 a year. Rory Stewart has called him out for using 'cheap electoral bribes' at an 'eye-watering' cost of £84bn.

On Newsnight, Mark Harper said BJ's tax plans were the "wrong choice" for the country and any tax cuts should be targeted at low-earners and those on universal credit. Who could argue with that? Some will though.

Labaik Mon 10-Jun-19 23:33:17

You mean the abortion bit? I've no idea. I don't recall anyone questioning the time limit on abortion till he brought it up. I just wonder if it's anything to do with needing to do trade deals with America?? It's all getting a bit surreal to be honest...

Iam64 Mon 10-Jun-19 21:02:39

Good question Labaik, though is it something he said years ago that's been resurrected by others in an attempt to undermine him. Who knows? All I know is that I long for Rory Steward to somehow become PM (not withstanding the need for a GE of course)

Labaik Mon 10-Jun-19 20:53:46

Hunt also admitted that we were in a constitutional crisis...and where has all this abortion stuff come from?

GracesGranMK3 Mon 10-Jun-19 20:49:35

Rory Stewart is through to the next round. This is his latest video.

www.facebook.com/RoryStewartPenrith/videos/2219838711385568/

Iam64 Mon 10-Jun-19 20:38:38

Urmstongran, I'm well aware its a leadership contest not a General Election. Yes, I remember well when Blair made way for Brown. There had long been talk of Blair giving way to Brown and then he did. I believed then that Brown should have held a general election but he didn't.
At the time, the LP wasn't in the state of meltdown that the Conservative party currently is. Jeremy Hunt said today that if there is a general election, the Conservatives will face wipe out.
That's my concern, not the wipe out of the tories particularly but the fact the whole country may end up with a PM who is voted in by a small number of largely white, middle class, elderly people (mainly men).

Urmstongran Mon 10-Jun-19 20:34:29

Villiers (NI) is backing Boris.

I admire her.

Urmstongran Mon 10-Jun-19 20:31:20

It’s a leadership contest Iam64 not a GE.

Remember when Labour did similar - Tony Blair made way for Gordon Brown?

Iam64 Mon 10-Jun-19 20:15:00

whitewave wink

Callistemon Mon 10-Jun-19 20:14:09

Do your DC know that you're mixing with all kinds on Gransnet, Gabriella? shock
You just don't know who's on here hmm

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