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Firecracker123 Tue 14-May-19 15:08:33

A Party Political Broadcast on behalf of The Brexit Party is on BBC1
tonight 18.55pm.

varian Tue 21-May-19 18:05:40

This is what is really scary. Our national politics seems to have descended into a fact-free zone.

GillT57 Tue 21-May-19 18:02:59

This pathetic support for Farage and his Brexit "party" just won't be stopped by stupid things like facts varian and ww2, there is none so blind as she who will not see. Also, while I can understand why many are swayed by Farage and his clever double speak, I seriously worry about any woman, parent or grandparent who votes for the loathsome Widdecombe, are you so desperate for Brexit that you will give this vicious bigotted woman a platform?

varian Tue 21-May-19 18:02:26

Resurfaced video shows Farage bragging about how much money he earns as an MEP

www.indy100.com/article/nigel-farage-brexit-party-mep-salary-video-european-elections-8916196

crystaltipps Tue 21-May-19 17:50:41

Nigel hasn’t turned down EU money , expenses etc has he?

crystaltipps Tue 21-May-19 17:49:47

The BBC receive money from the EU...?.....so does Nigel, he’s on The BBC all the time.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 21-May-19 17:46:16

That’s a big jump fire

So would you say the BBCis biased in favour of the Tories?

Firecracker123 Tue 21-May-19 17:40:21

Whatever way you look at it the BBC and Channel 4 are benefiting from EU money and so by definition are bias.

MaizieD Tue 21-May-19 17:37:52

I've googled it Firecracker.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36149789

It doesn't look like bribery, corruption or snouts in the trough. It looks like the BBC accessing a legitimate source of money for things unrelated to their actual programmes.

I see that the Pro Brexit media tried to make a bit of a song and dance about it at the time but as so called 'bribes' go it was rather pathetic amounts...

Firecracker123 Tue 21-May-19 15:18:15

Another saying for you by Michelle Obama "when they go low, we go higher"

Although I can't agree with her husband who said we would go to the back of the queue if we voted leave, cheek of the man.

Firecracker123 Tue 21-May-19 15:12:04

Think what you like GracesGran it doesn't bother me The Brexit Party will sweep the board on Thursday.

GracesGranMK3 Tue 21-May-19 14:32:14

I wasn't taking it personally Firecracker, I totally understand your hostile vocabulary was aimed at everyone who didn't agree with you re the little man.

Firecracker123 Tue 21-May-19 14:20:06

The BBC and Channel 4 receive money from the EU. Google it. I only post on my phone so can't type essays lol or do links.
I'm not at war with anyone GracesGran don't take things so personally, I was referring to all the flak Nigel Farage and The Brexit Party are getting.

GracesGranMK3 Tue 21-May-19 11:43:26

"when you start taking flax [sic] you know your [sic] over the target" Tue 21-May-19 08:18:11

So just when Firecracker123 did you decide you were actually at war with people like me and there was shooting to be done? You seem to revel in it. Will it be you who gives up your home, your life in order to inflict your views on others?

(It's not a "saying" by the way and you appear to only be quoting yourself. The stuff the pilots had to avoid (and that can mean criticism) is flack. Flax is a plant.) Sorry to do a Gabriella on you but it doesn't make a lot of sense otherwise blush

Whitewavemark2 Tue 21-May-19 11:35:53

I know all that lemon but I thought I would help in informed voting.
I would not be so naive to think that Farage and the BP intends to stop at the EU election. In my view Farages aim is to destroy the Tory party as we know it, and I think this will be proven over the next couple of years.

As much as I dislike Tory policies, I would hate the BP to replace it. That is definately the road to hell.

lemongrove Tue 21-May-19 11:29:40

If you are trying hard to put people off voting for the Brexit
Party.....it won’t work.Why? because this election is for MEP’s not MP’s, and if many Brexit Party candidates become MEP’s they are unlikely to serve much , if any time in that actual role.We will be either out of the EU because May’s deal goes through in early June ( being reliant on Labour votes) or we will be leaving with no deal at the end of October.All that is necessary is for the Brexit Party to do really well this week, and Parliament getting that message loud and clear.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 21-May-19 11:26:19

Farage South East

Nigel Farage.
Where to begin….
Farage has joined rallies with far-right parties in Germany on invitation of relatives of actual Nazis (link). He has swooned over and been linked to the far-right party Marine Le Pen in France (link). He is best friends with Trump (who has a history of discriminating against black people and not condemning neo-Nazis, even giving them jobs in his cabinet, for example Steve Bannon) (link). In fact, Farage is also very good friends with Steve Bannon of far-right website Breitbart (link), whose leaked emails proved he was trying to rebrand actual neo-Nazi organisations (link); Farage describes him as “my kind of chap”. Farage also cozied up with far-right talkshow host Alex Jones (who claimed high school shootings in the US were faked), chiming in with numerous conspiracy theories during six appearances on his show (link). He was quoted as saying he admires Putin, presumably because of all the assassinating and censorship (link).
Numerous former school friends and teachers at Farage’s elite private school (Dulwich College) have attested that Nigel used to sing Hitler Youth songs, sing “gas ’em all”, boast about having the same initials as the National Front, and worshipped (still worships) famous racist Enoch Powell (who himself was quoted as saying “What’s wrong with racism?”) (link).
Nigel’s thinly-veiled racism is so magnetic he can’t organise a protest without the far-right EDL from attending. He has smeared and expressed his distrust of Romanian people (link), most likely while sporting a vacant, shit-eating grin and gleaming his beady shrimp eyes.
He’s a man so heroic, that when gay and disabled protestors surprised him in a pub, he fled in a car and left his children behind (link).
He tries to camouflage himself as a working class man of the people, but is one of the highest paid MPs in the UK, a multi-millionaire who resided in a £4m Chelsea home. He criticised European bureaucrats earning £100,000 a year but himself enjoys £84,000 as an MEP, plus pension, plus tens of thousands in allowances, and earns hundreds of thousands a year from being a professional wanker on TV and radio (link).
When asked if tycoon Arron Banks, who is under investigation by the National Crime Agency for multiple suspected criminal offences, was funding him to the tune of nearly half a million pounds and supplying him with houses and cars, Farage lied that he wasn’t. (Banks himself admitted it.) (link)
Farage — who looks suspiciously like he was dredged up by a deep sea trawler net causing his facial tissue to collapse — is a board member of investment company Sofina (which invests in things like energy and real estate, and offer tax services to businesses), uses the Isle of Man as a tax haven, has said that tax avoidance is “okay”, has used various techniques to avoid paying tax, has misspent public funds, and has refused to release his tax returns (link).
Farage is also a climate change denier, referring to it as a “scam”, and has called wind energy “insanity” (link), and pledged to rip up green measures and to instead enable fracking (link).
Farage — who looks like that alien in MIB that disguised itself as a human and couldn’t control its spasming face — wants to replace the NHS, saying: “We need to move to an insurance-based system of healthcare” (link). He has also suggested people with HIV shouldn’t be allowed into Britain (link).
I could go on, but if you have half a conscience, the above should be enough to dissuade you from voting for a party with this unconvincing semblance of a human for its leader.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 21-May-19 11:19:42

Claire Fox standing in the North West

Claire Fox
Claire Fox doesn’t think the government should ban people from watching child porn. Yeah, you heard me. She has defended Gary Glitter’s right to download child porn on a Radio 5 Live phone-in (link).
Claire Fox also defended and has forever refused to condemn an IRA bomb attack (1993, Cheshire Town, which killed schoolchildren) (link), and was once part of the Revolutionary Communist Party, which ‘rampantly supported the IRA’ to the point of not wanting peace talks or an end to the conflict. Possibly in an effort to move with the times, Fox has also said that she doesn’t think the government should ban Jihadi terrorist videos (link).
A person of priorities, she has defended homophobic reggae artist Beenie Man’s sung invocation to murder gay men (link).
Claire Fox is a writer for Spiked Magazine (link) — you’ll see this website come up several times with other Brexit Party candidates listed below. To give you a wider picture, it has been characterised as anti-environmentalist, pro-hate speech, and has defended the rights of paedophiles to publish grooming manuals. The magazine was renamed after the original version — Living Marxism — which Claire Fox co-published, went bankrupt for spreading a hoax that suggested Bosnian Muslims weren’t persecuted and victims of genocide, while also opposing UK gun control after the Dunblane Massacre (link). What a magazine…
To give you an even wider picture of Spiked Magazine, it is funded by The Koch Brothers, the two brothers of a US family who control Koch Industries, the second largest privately owned company in the US with 2017 revenues of $100bn, which started out in oil and petrol. They have built a political network of conservative donors and think tanks, and promoted legislation to reduce tax rates for businesses as advocated by the Trump administration, and their groups have been active in denying climate change and opposing climate change legislation. Their Cato Institute think tank, one of the most influential in the US, opposes minimum wage, child labor prohibitions, and public sector unions and wants to abolish the welfare state (link).
As well as opposing gun control in the UK, Fox is linked to pro-gun American groups, and has also been funded by ‘unpleasant’ pharmaceutical companies (link). She is anti-abortion.
Fox is anti-PC, and has attacked multiculturalism (link). She is vocally pro-GM crops, has frequently tweeted her denial of climate science, and is anti-environmentalism (link). She is thee founder and director of the ‘shadowy’ Institute of Ideas (the trading name of the Academy of Ideas), a think tank that hosts debates asking if we can trust scientists, is linked to Monsanto, is pro-GM crops, and pro-hate speech (link).
She got upset on Twitter when Led By Donkeys printed actual quotes from Nigel Farage on billboards, falsely claiming they were lies — lying herself, basically (link).

Whitewavemark2 Tue 21-May-19 11:16:33

I think it would be a good idea for those that are interested and are intending to vote for the BP to be as informed as possible about their candidate. This information is all in the link maizie posted if you want to read it for yourself. Otherwise I will do the job for you and you can find your candidate more easily.

So I’ll start with Widdecombe standing in the South West

Ann Widdecombe
Former Tory prison minister Ann Widdecombe is extremely against homosexuality. She has voted consistently against pro-LGBT legislation and opposed same-sex marriage (link), and even voiced support for gay conversion therapy (link). She has spoken out against transgender people. She has been quoted and filmed referred to gay relationships as “disgusting” (link) and “wrongful” (link).
Weirdly, for a woman, Widdecombe seems to really hate women. She has victim-blamed Harvey Weinstein’s abuse victims (link). She called The Women’s March “pathetic” (link). She is against the Church of England ordaining women as priests (link), and has also argued that pregnant prisoners should be shackled during childbirth (link). She also supports the death penalty (link).
Widdecombe is a climate change denier who has voted against reducing emissions (link), and has criticised wind power (link).

Margaux Tue 21-May-19 11:15:27

I can't help feeling Theresa May has the right approach - a sensible middle course - but with the prospect of an unknown successor taking a different approach, I can't find any party to vote for. They other go for extremes or sit on the fence.

Mycatisahacker Tue 21-May-19 11:11:03

Sorry I brought Gordon into the conversation grin

urmstongran

Yes I think that lost him the election if I remember rightly

Whitewavemark2 Tue 21-May-19 11:01:46

maizie 10.11.59 it is astounding how the lid is kept on the sort of information in that link. That or deny, deny, deny.

I am sure that these sort of charmers won’t prevail in the long run though. I hope and pray the U.K. is better than that.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 21-May-19 10:42:14

More gems from the BP

mobile.twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1130767337483902976/photo/1

Urmstongran Tue 21-May-19 10:25:03

People in glass houses crystaltipps!
?

MaizieD Tue 21-May-19 10:11:59

Interesting analysis of Brexit Party candidates here:

medium.com/@SJHolloway/this-is-everything-i-discovered-about-all-of-the-brexit-party-mep-candidates-2a59f8f850c5

Bunch of real charmers...

MaizieD Tue 21-May-19 09:46:13

Firecracker. Can you explain how Ch4 and the BBC are 'on the EU gravy train'?

My understanding of the phrase is that 'on the gravy train' means receiving money from whatever institution is being criticised. Are you saying that these channels are getting funding from the EU?

Or do you just mean that they are saying things that you don't like?