Horrified by Alabama Abortion law

I completely accept that we have the freedom to make choices here in the UK but that doesn't mean that I have to agree with those choices any more than some views on keeping someone alive at all costs who has no quality of life.
There are some contentious issues which I decline to get further involved in.

Spot on Maryeliza and SirC

I often wonder if those seeking to bring down the limit actually think women casually abort healthy babies at 24 weeks just you know because hey why not!!!

Do you actually know anyone who has aborted that late? It’s extremely traumatic

Do you have no imagination or empathy of thoughts of the crisis that woman or girl must be in to do this?

Trish exactly. Unfortunately though we do know only too well what girls and women will do in desperation.

Of course you don’t have to agreed with other people’s choices!

That’s your right. What isn’t your right if you try and limit other women’s choices

I believe we should show compassion and be less judgemental towards women who seek late abortion under circumstances we may never experience? It chills me to think that if the abortion law was tightened up in England, where I live, this choice would be denied to some very vulnerable women.

Hardly anyone here seems to think it's (mainly) a woman responsibility to ensure she does not have an unwanted pregnancy in the first place. The majority of you are saying women should be in charge of making decisions about their bodies so, surely, avoiding pregnancy is one of those things.

Would all those in favour of abortion on demand ask to go back in a time machine - if such a thing existed - and ask their pregnant mothers to abort them or is it just okay to end the life of a different baby without their permission!

Oh dear

Quizqueen

Indeed it would be perfect if every baby was a much wanted baby. It would be perfect if contraception worked 100%

It would be wonderful if human beings never ever made mistakes or had bodies that worked perfectly so no tricks played about periods or the menopause.

It would be perfect if there was no rape or incest or child abuse or domestic violence or foetal abnormalities or much wanted babies dying in the womb.

If you see a unicorn please take a photo

Very good response mycatisahacker

Reasons for caution when considering abortion? Yes. (Sat 18-May-19 00:19:03)

The article was extremely interesting GabriellaG54. I had already followed the story very carefully as my twin died, 6 hours after birth, from spina bifida and hydrocephalus. Both my parents were convinced that his death was the best thing that could have happened. There was no treatment at that time. They loved children and would not have wanted to see him suffer. I was only the second to survive out of six births (some premature but very survivable now) so they certainly wanted this baby.

This is your usual sort of post - no explanation as to why you believe that in your opinion we should be cautious. This was one incident, one experiment and one choice. Why should that influence any other person making that choice when this will not be on offer to them for years? This is such a complex issue and yet, as usual, you trot out the simplistic (and often illogical) answer. That is forgivable. The fact that you so arrogantly think you can tell everyone else what to do is not.

Quizqueen - please explain how it is possible to get the permission, or otherwise, of a foetus!!

Surely the argument here isn't whether abortion is acceptable but whether it is acceptable to deny women control of what happens to their bodies.

All those 'goodly' men and women who take the choice away from the pregnant woman because they are concerned about the rights of the unborn child - where are they when it comes to caring for the unborn child? If a society made sure that every person born into it would have a genuine safety net that would ensure nobody would go uncared for and be in poverty, there really wouldn't be many desperate women anyway would there?

Yes agree all the above

I haven't got that power Mycatisahacker nor would I want it. I'm content with making my own choices and leave other people to theirs.

SirChenjin

Then you’ve misunderstood my post.
I am in favour of termination up to 24 weeks in exceptional circumstances.
Abortion for social reasons should be respected to 14 weeks ( if not 12 )

I mentioned exercising caution as there may be other alternatives to abortion of 'deformed' or 'threatened' foetuses offered in future.
I'm certainly not telling women what to do, that's as ridiculous as intimating that I could influence them.
I'm merely giving my views.

And you are perfectly entitled to your view

I completely accept that we have the freedom to make choices here in the UK but that doesn't mean that I have to agree with those choices any more than some views on keeping someone alive at all costs who has no quality of life. There are some contentious issues which I decline to get further involved in.

Emphasis on: I decline

As the law would have it, a pregnant woman wouldn't be permitted to "decline"- The law would prohibit her from deciding-

This is a contentious issue, rife with pretension-

Kay Ivey, the female governor of Alabama, is 74 years in age, past her reproductive prime- She's intensely private, circumspect regarding her personal life- It's believed she never had any children of her own or sought to adopt-

Since taking office in 2017, she signed a bill hastening the process of human execution and another bill permitting faith-based adoption agencies to refuse gay couples- She also signed a bill protecting the legacy of The Confederacy, and with that, it's support of and use of humans as slaves-

News media on line is reporting that Distract Attorneys in Atlanta have said they will refuse to prosecute women accused of having abortions

rosecarmel, that list of political decisions is chilling. Fascism anyone?

Iam64 I thought it was the doctors carrying out the abortions that faced prosecution - not the women. I hope the District Attorneys also refuse to prosecute the doctors.

Rosecarmel, I'm astounded by this information about Alabama's governor! I don't know her, of course, but it sounds as if she would have no empathy for some poor girl who got pregnant by accident - or by rape - and can't imagine how she's going to raise a child.

Mycat, your unicorn post is perfect!

Kandinsky, what is "abortion for social reasons?"

News media on line is reporting that Distract Attorneys in Atlanta have said they will refuse to prosecute women accused of having abortions

Good news Iam but what a strange and disparate world we live in.

Thanks for clarifying what you actually meant by ‘24 weeks for any reason is way too high’. That reads that the 24 week limit is too high irrespective of the reason but I appreciate you didn’t mean it to come across that way.

How on earth can a law enforcement officer refuse to enforce the law?