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Horrified by Alabama Abortion law

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NanaandGrampy Wed 15-May-19 15:14:50

I am horrified by the new ruling that makes abortion illegal in the state of Alabama with not even exceptions for rape or incest victims .

The only exception is if the mothers life is endangered . Am I right in thinking this new law puts women back 100 years with no ability to make decisions about their own bodies ?

What are your thoughts ?

Mycatisahacker Wed 15-May-19 20:02:06

I find anyone who feels it necessary to try and control a woman’s choice over her body as Weird and frightening.

Mycatisahacker Wed 15-May-19 19:58:10

Maryeliza

Yes yes yes totally agree.

I would have safe spaces around abortion clinics and prosecute any one hassling a woman seeking an abortion or advice in one as a hate crime.

SueDonim Wed 15-May-19 19:49:20

Does it not cross anyone's mind that a woman who has multiple abortions and is seen as using it as contraception has probably got a lot of other things going on in her life as well?

I don't see that having a TOP is that easy. You have to make appointments to see doctors, you have to take one pill, then another. You have to cope with the physical effects, which, if anything like a miscarriage, can't be a bundle of laughs. It really doesn't seem that convenient to me and something you'd do for fun.

Really, if those legislating against abortions are that bothered by women having agency over their own bodies why don't they force pregnant woman to live in state-run camps for the duration of pregnancy, monitoring their every move so the foetus comes to no harm? After all, a woman could cause a miscarriage by riding a horse or eating soft cheese or climbing a mountain or any one of a million things.

This is pure misogyny. angry

maryeliza54 Wed 15-May-19 19:20:48

ag and Kadinsky what makes you hate women so much? I loved every minute of my pregnancy, I loved my changing body, I loved lying in bed watching dd kick and turn. I loved it all so much that I would never ever never ever want a woman to go through pregnancy if she didn’t want to.

maryeliza54 Wed 15-May-19 19:16:50

So men only started being irresponsible about impregnating women when abortion became easier? What a lie. What a lie.

Mycatisahacker Wed 15-May-19 19:15:42

in addition to making abortion illegal

I don’t say this lightly but fuck off away from me and my dds and make your own choices.

Or just actually fuck off!

Mycatisahacker Wed 15-May-19 19:13:27

agnurse

If s baby is in the womb it’s the woman’s right to choose.

Until birth

Kandinsky Wed 15-May-19 19:09:22

agnurse
That’s the thing, abortion on demand makes men’s lives easier & gets them off the hook. All they say is ‘get rid of it’ & walk away, leaving the poor woman emotionally scared for life. ( I know not all women feel bad after an abortion & many feel relief, but I doubt they’re ever really the same again )

Jane10 Wed 15-May-19 19:08:30

Hear hear!

paddyann Wed 15-May-19 19:06:27

surely that depends on when you believe life begins? AGNURSEConception or birth ? When the foetus is viable? Otherwise IF it cant survive without the mother then its not a being in its own right so the mother is responsible for her body and yes it really is no ones business but hers.As I said before I dont know anyone who thinks abortions are a good thing but they are sadly a necessity for many .

maryeliza54 Wed 15-May-19 19:02:32

Pro-life = anti-choice

maryeliza54 Wed 15-May-19 19:01:22

inews.co.uk/news/health/busting-abortion-used-contraception-myth/

agnurse Wed 15-May-19 19:00:42

Kandinsky

I agree completely. This is why in addition to making abortion illegal, we need to eliminate the circumstances that encourage women to view abortion as an option. Many pro-life people, myself included, support such initiatives.

agnurse Wed 15-May-19 18:59:52

If a woman wanted to kill her newborn, would that be no one's business but hers?

If a woman wanted to end her own life, would that be no one's business but hers?

Was slavery no one's business but that of the slave owners?

We are talking about another human life here.

Mycatisahacker Wed 15-May-19 18:59:42

Kadinsky

Sorry I don’t say this lightly but nonsense

Mycatisahacker Wed 15-May-19 18:58:15

I don’t care is a woman uses abortion as a method of contraception

I don’t care if it’s her first time and it’s an accident

I don’t think it’s appropriate to ask a woman how/why/when she got pregnant

I think it’s abortion on demand for what ever reason the pregnant woman ferns necessary

And I bloody well know it’s no-ones business but here

notanan2 Wed 15-May-19 18:57:18

There absolutely are people who have multiple abortions because they use them as birth control.

If your definition of birth control is not wanting to remain pregnant... well yes!

And there are indeed men out there whose chosen form of contraception is "its her problem" after the event . Do you mean them?

Kandinsky Wed 15-May-19 18:56:56

And yes I agree, abortion is very convenient for men. I doubt many of the women who have an abortion would do so if they had love & support from the father.

maryeliza54 Wed 15-May-19 18:55:27

And your point is ag ( plus the evidence of course)?

Kandinsky Wed 15-May-19 18:54:53

It’s not a ban on abortion - it’s a ban on safe abortion.

They will always be women seeking to end a pregnancy, this just means they’ll go to a back street abortionists.

agnurse Wed 15-May-19 18:54:48

In fact, there are more WOMEN than men who are against abortion. Abortion is very convenient for men who don't want to become fathers and be responsible for their children.

In at least one study, about 60% of women seeking an abortion indicated that they were doing so due to pressure from someone else. That's not really "choice", is it?

notanan2 Wed 15-May-19 18:53:48

Oh and thats not accounting for risks like septicaemia and bleeding to death...

And cost. Of the abortion and loss of earnings.

agnurse Wed 15-May-19 18:53:37

Actually there are MORE issues that can occur after an abortion compared to after a miscarriage. A miscarriage is a natural event and your body prepares for that. An abortion is not a natural event. The hormone levels drop suddenly and this can potentially increase the risk of breast cancer. Forcible dilation of the cervix can cause an incompetent cervix, which can increase the risk of miscarriage and preterm birth in the future.

There absolutely are people who have multiple abortions because they use them as birth control.

notanan2 Wed 15-May-19 18:52:39

Bleeding cramping radiating back pain diarrhoea passing clots and products of pregnancy nausia dizziness anaemia low mood followed by months of unpredictable periods... and thats just a very EARLY abortion. Where you dont go into labour and lactate etc

So convenient. Sign me up!

notanan2 Wed 15-May-19 18:48:16

Physical recovery from an abortion is similar to physical recovery from a misscarraige. There are also the same hormonal effects which affect mood/emotion. Whoever thinks this would make a practical and its even be suggested to me by a campaigner: CONVENIENT form of regular contraception obviously has no basic understanding of how the female body works and should therefore not have a say over how they are used!