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If you are a remainer

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Whitewavemark2 Sun 19-May-19 09:19:44

I’m voting Green in my area, but I would vote Lib Dem if it was indicating I should.

www.bestforbritain.org/poll_largest_poll_so_far_shows_how_each_region_is_voting_ahead_of_thursday_s_euro_elections

varian Mon 20-May-19 16:13:58

Many, if not most Britons, are heartily sick of this brexit nonsense and it suits some brexiter politicians to keep saying "people just want us to get it done so we can move on"

NO. if this brexit nonsense is not stopped it will be many, many years before we can ever move on. For the forseeable future our politics will be entirely dominated by trade negotiations, efforts to safeguard our security, claw back a fraction of our trashed international reputation, etc, etc, all the while blaming the EU, foriegners and Remainers for everything getting worse and worse.

According to Brexit Party candidate Lucy Harris, it will take at least thirty years to recover, but "it will be worth it"

The only way we can move on to dealing with all the other desperately urgent problems in the UK is to STOP BREXIT.

This needs to be made clear to everyone who thinks that "getting it done" or "just leave" will be the end of this nightmare and not just the beginning.

Cindersdad Sun 19-May-19 19:14:58

It's only the actual poll on Thursday that counts. Knowing what we now know about Brexit and Brexiteers surely the people must realise just how damaging Brexit of any kind is to the country.

I've already used my postal vote to support a pro Remain party and urged others to do likewise. Most of my friends are pro-remain but a lot are succumbing to Brexit fatigue, we must not let the b****srds grind us down.

lemongrove Sun 19-May-19 19:14:24

Don’t be too sure that another referendum will stop Brexit.....it could well endorse it.?

Mycatisahacker Sun 19-May-19 19:12:41

Grany grin depend who you are touching!!! gringrin

Yes varian I think it’s the only legitimate option if parliament can’t sort this

varian Sun 19-May-19 19:04:29

I think it is likely that another referendum will be needed to stop brexit.

Most MPs know very well that any kind of brexit would damage the country but they have been so intimidated by the threats from the brexiters that they would probably only revoke Article 50 if it was the only way to prevent a catastrophic no-deal brexit.

Grany Sun 19-May-19 18:59:50

Ha Ha Mycatisahacker Didn't realise I wrote that ha ha would be rather fun ha ha wouldn't it

Mycatisahacker Sun 19-May-19 18:54:19

Grany

Tactile voting???? Sounds fun grin

Mycatisahacker Sun 19-May-19 18:26:00

varian

So you think just revoking article 50 is the end to this?

Another referendum may be seen as legitimate I grant you but just revoking? No we would see the rise of the far right as is across Europe as people feel their vote and their concerns are ignored by the political elite.

varian Sun 19-May-19 18:04:57

Thanks for that link WWMk2. This is the message we must try to hammer home.

I think most of the population are fed up with breexit and the way it has sucked the life out of our politics for the last three years, at the expense of far more important issues.

Pro-brexit politicians and journalists are allowed to get away with saying "People just want us to get on with it" as if leaving would be the end of the matter, when in fact it would only be the beginning of years and years of negotiations about trade and all the other elements of our national life which would be irrevocably disrupted.

The only way for us to move on asap is to STOP BREXIT.

Mycatisahacker Sun 19-May-19 17:44:58

SitChenjin

grin

Whitewavemark2 Sun 19-May-19 17:37:53

Here

infacts.org/vote-remain-so-we-dont-have-to-bother-about-brexit-again/

Whitewavemark2 Sun 19-May-19 17:36:06

grany I want remain.

Grany Sun 19-May-19 17:31:29

On Marr Vince Cable said he said on austerity Lib Dems / Tories "It could have been worse"

I am voting Labour don't understand tactile vote if you want Labour vote Labour.

SirChenjin Sun 19-May-19 16:59:05

No, we’re keeping Ruth mycat - she keeps Nicola on her toes. Sorry!

Mycatisahacker Sun 19-May-19 16:44:05

But the SNP only have one aim don’t they? I think Nicola and Nigel are very similar to be honest obsessed with independence. Don’t you find them both very tiresome?

If you don’t want Ruth Davidson send her to England I think she’s blooming fab

Jane10 Sun 19-May-19 16:24:23

They're not 'our masters'. We have representation there too. Don't forget that Scotland has punched well above its weight based on population size in the way of previous prime ministers.
Historically, we took over England when James VI and Ist took the throne.

varian Sun 19-May-19 16:23:15

The best advice for Remainers in all parts of England is to vote for the Liberal Democrats and send the message "Stop Brexit"

paddyann Sun 19-May-19 16:16:16

Anything but SNP? One day you will see they are the ONLY party in Scotland with Scotlands interests at heart and not the interest of their Westminster masters .

SirChenjin Sun 19-May-19 14:00:53

quo

SirChenjin Sun 19-May-19 14:00:27

Agree with everything that Jane says. Lib Dem here this time - hell will freeze over before I vote for the SNP and the other parties are a shambles so DH and I are going LD this time.

Agree also that any future referendums should be a minimum of 60% to change the status quote. For example, up here we’ve now lived with 5 years of division and uncertainty and unless the next Indy referendum swings to yes right across the country with a minimum of 60% then that’s just going to continue - which is an awful situation to be living in.

mumofmadboys Sun 19-May-19 13:55:06

I usually vote Labour but will vote Lib Dem this time. Firm remainer.

Mycatisahacker Sun 19-May-19 12:26:37

I think the gains will b Brexit party and Lib Dem. the 2 main parties are toast.

whywhywhy Sun 19-May-19 12:20:42

Liberal Democrats this time for me.

Charleygirl5 Sun 19-May-19 12:19:27

Whitewave- not all, I am voting tactically next week but I have never voted Labour in my life.

If Boris gets his wish, I may buy a single ticket to anywhere.

Mycatisahacker Sun 19-May-19 12:17:25

I have though no real idea what labour think of Brexit! I still don’t really know what their position is?