LGBT protest at school

Where my philosophy undergraduate child is currently at is not being kind, being good.

I find it interesting that it's females that are told to "be kind" not so much males.

Very young children are now being taught *modern morality *which includes being kind to other children from families unlike their own family, to old people perhaps needing help, and being helpful to disabled people.

Modern morality is about interpreting religious laws with kindness and love. Some religious people believe that morality is about rules and regulations.

I asked my children why people don't write more simply, they said because they want to seem more intelligent in order to feel superior to others.

Arguments, I am not writing in a philosophy exam.

I don't have a degree and an disabled I don't therefore follow a familiar pattern, please feel free to ignore me and dislike my thoughts, be happy.

Unravel away, straw man away.

I agree with Iam DAK you have certainly added a degree of incomprehensibility to the discussion but I also think we have all tried to unravel your train of thought.

You seem to be obsessed with Queer Theory, insisting that this is what is being taught to small children. I can see no evidence that they are being taught this any more than they are being taught about Voltaire, etc. whose views may also lie behind some of what they are being taught. They are simply being taught the open-mindedness that allows for inclusion.

Rather like the Muslim parents who feel the teaching of the children should be based on their own extremist views, you are saying you think it should be based on your prejudices. Because of the difficulty I have had in unraveling what you are getting at I may have got that wrong, but you do seem preoccupied with this.

For what it's worth I do not agree with small areas declaring UDI against parts of the National Curriculum based on their belief in Islam. I would defend their right, however, to teach the children that these are their views. The parents can teach what they choose at home but the children should be taught like all others in the country.

your comments incomprehensible, cold and odd

Why bother engaging then, you won't understand, you strawquote me, you won't like my answers?

maddyone, thanks for a personal insight into the need for all children to have the benefit of gentle introduction to the fact that families come in all shapes, colours and sizes.
DoesAnyoneKnow - I find your comments incomprehensible, cold and odd. What's your issue with helping children develop an understanding of tolerance. It's age appropriate imo, just like children having a belief in magic that helps them enjoy life. As the children develop and are exposed more to life outside school and family, they will reach their own conclusions about identity. If they're brought up in closed communities where anything that challenges religious or social belief systems is said to be unacceptable/wrong/likely to lead to people burning in hell etc etc - well, life will be more of a challenge, especially if they happen to be gay or any other thing that's unacceptable in their family/community. Like women going into higher education for eg.

Parents die, parents get divorced and as you say some children are in the state care system or are adopted.

This is a separate issue to teaching queer theory to small children that will often believe in the tooth fairy and Father Christmas.

These topics should be taught in schools.

I have one son who is gay, and he lives with his civil partner and their adopted little boy. On the way to school one morning, our grandson was asked by another child why he hasn’t got a mummy. Our grandson didn’t answer, but became very clingy. The answer he has been taught is ‘I do have a mummy but she couldn’t look after me, so I live with my.........’ This why these subjects must be taught about and discussed at a very early age. Every child has the right to have his or her family situation accepted and included. Every child has the right to feel normal, and his/her family situation totally accepted. With these lessons, hopefully every child will feel included rather different.

Poor children - imagine being the child of a fundamentalist ( of any religion). IMO it’s a form of child abuse
maryeliza yes, you’ve reminded me of Oranges Are Not The Only Fruit

The local labour MP just been in LBC talking to Ian dale. He supports the parents.

Dale furiously accused him of cynically keeping Muslim votes.

I believe Jess Phillips is genuine in her interests. I also believe Jess enjoys press coverage and has leadership ambitions within the Labour party, that can be aided by the community she showed public support to outside the school.

Just wondering why Jess Phillips was at Anderton Park School. I believe it is in Mosely which is not her constituency of Yardley.

Though I suppose that is irrelevant.

I don't actually know.

Maryeliza

Sorry every time you say ‘queer theory! I think of ‘are you being served and ‘I’m free’

Sorry

GG Will they be used in all primary schools?
Mycat I know of the family. I better not say any more as do not want to derail this thread.

* DoesAnyoneKnow* Mr moffat wrote the books. They will be used in all primary schools .

Had Moffat respected all nine protected characteristics equally, not taught queer theory as a belief rather than fact, I wonder if there would have been a different outcome?

Maryeliza

Have you watched 19 kids and counting? If not look on u tube.

No! they mustn't have! and it's certainly not true. At our local grammar school a huge percentage of the lads coming out of school these days look as though they might be from muslim backgrounds. They have a good work, and family, ethic.

Those children have got reduced life chances anyway

Moffat has just made himself unemployed if the children have been pulled out of school, left them with reduced life chances and created community tension, what a legacy.

Yes mycat it’s a bit of a problem isn’t it? There’s a lot of huffing and puffing around isn’t there? And intimidation and stirring up. I think I’d call the parents bluff and then see what really happens re the children being taken out of school long term. Poor children - imagine being the child of a fundamentalist ( of any religion). IMO it’s a form of child abuse

Yes Gonegirl I guess they would and that’s sad.

DoesAnyoneKnow

You intrigue me! I can usually picture posters but I can’t picture you!

Oh another thread