EU Election Results

You cannot be serious Crystal (surely!)

Why would 30% vote of a 40% turnout make any difference to parliament?

Gill do you need to ask?
Conservatives ( the Party) have seen the consequences of not securing Brexit, most of their Leave voting supporters
Diverting to the Brexit Party.If there was to be a GE then likely the same would happen.
Labour ( the Party) have also seen the consequences of their sit on the fence, shall we have another referendum or not stance, and have lost a lot of support as a result.From both leavers and remainers.

The Conservative Party won’t go for a GE as it has too much to fear just now, but after the BP securing 29 MEPS ( Lib Dems securing 16) they know they must unite now behind a new leader, and leave the EU either with a reasonable deal or if that can’t be had, then no deal.

Farage is a stooge. It is important to acknowledge the clear 100% MSM anti UKIP. And the 100% MSM for Farage and his Brexit Party, on every hour of every day being glorified and worshipped. Nothing the MSMS claimed on UKIP or Gerard Batten has ever been true or backed up with evidence. I find this fascist North Korea style to covering politics extremely worrying. This whole charade was an organised agenda in order to destroy UKIP. We will see Farage cave-in to the Remainers.

Mycat why would anyone want to 'hide the fact' that they 'come from nothing'? Surely they should be proud of their achievements?

"I always find those who sneer usually have come from nothing and are desperate to hide that fact" Yes, that sounds quite 'sneery'

I think it will be disastrous if a new Cons leader just ploughs on with Brexit at any cost. What is the justification? Where are the numbers?

Why would it make them go ahead with leaving lemon? We have already mentioned that 12m Brexit voters did not exercise their democratic right to vote for the EU this week, so why on earth should this shrinking/can't be arsed/changed their mind/indifferent group be the deciding group? There is even less of you now. If either of the two main parties decide to go forward on a Brexit or crash out of EU basis they are bonkers and totally unfit for office.

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More than 9.1m now. On current tally last Thursday

9,489,558 voted for parties explicitly opposed to No Deal Brexit, and Brexit fullstop*

and
5,904,955 for parties explicitly for No Deal backers **

* (LD/ Lab/G/SNP/PC/CH/SF/UUP/All/SDLP/UKEU/WEP)

**(BXP/UKIP/TUV/ED)

No Mycat that is not being disenfranchised, it is being let down by party manifestos which bear little relation to what actually happens when the party gets power, remember Cameron and Osborne's promise that nobody would have to pay more than £35k in elderly care costs? That was a vote winner with the typical older, home owning Tory voter, and what happened? It was shelved for 'review' as it would be expensive. If we all stopped voting because we felt as if we had been misled, none of us would vote.

The reason the EU vote was for Remain or leave Brexit Party people showing what side they are on. Not like a GE more people turn out and Labour are leading in the polls now.

That’s kind of the problem you actually have to convince the electorate not just your conference echo chamber

Grany

Not working for them though is it?

Yes Labour have been very clear what their polices are General Election peoples vote. Corbyn knows the country is very divided and he and his party are trying to bring the country together what's best for everybody.

Emily is very forthright though maybe not towing the party line, along with Tom Watson he speaks for himself I hope we get a new deputy leader Laura Piddock she is not a career politition and backs Corbyn she is passionate a genuine socialist and in politics for the right reason.

Here is Laura introducing Corbyn at a rally in Carlisle
twitter.com/BenJolly9/status/1133002761711357952?s=20

No idea of the airline think that was before easy jet

Actually flying to Ibiza in 1983 my mil and fil and lots of passengers clapped when the plane landed.

Dh and I thought it was hilarious but nice.

I always find those who sneer usually have come from nothing and are desperate to hide that fact

If the EU voting doesn’t concentrate minds in Parliament to get on and leave the EU in October, then nothing will.

Typo...Scotland.

Well, WWM2 found your sneery ( and dare I say elitist) comment funny Blondie, though I have never heard anyone clap when the plane lands .....which airline do you normally fly with?
The BP had just over 14% of the vote in Scotland btw.
Highly unlikely that Scotalnd will ever vote to leave the Union.

blondie???

Even though the message from Scotland is still overwhelmingly remain, I fear the UK government would make it very difficult for us to become independent and would drag out negotiations etc in exactly the same way as they have with the EU. So, while I am very happy that we have a 3rd SNP MEP - and that the Lib Dems did well in Scotland - we still face being dragged or catapulted out of the EU against what is very much the will of the people north of the Border.

I do feel a bit sorry for the Scots who want no-deal Brexit because they can't seem to see what a disaster it will be and I think they will be a disgruntled reality who will never appreciate the benefits of self-government until the catastrophe has happened.

None of this is good for our lives and peace of mind and I anticipate Farage and co causing as much trouble within the EU as they can. Not good for any of us.

Grany are you actually agreeing with Corbyn when he claims "We had a very clear policy all along"?

He should have been asked to explain his Party's disastrous performance.

I've never had much time for Emily Thornberry but I thought she was extremely frank last night when asked to comment on the bad results coming in. She didn't make excuses but admitted that the Labour policy was anything but clear and that is why so many votes were lost to the LibDems and Greens.

Blondie why do people clap when a plane lands? Never happened to me.

No Lemon same BC but surely you would agree he is intelligent and not just in one area? I respect him because he talks a lot of sense, especially in his R4 programme Infinite Monkey Cage where he explains things so well.

mycat more [hmm[

On the 26th October 2016 the head of the WTO, Roberto Azevedo stated: UKs transition out of the eu will be fast and smooth and there will be no disruption to trade