Good vibes around here

I hope you don’t take this personally as it’s not meant that way but as an English person I really couldn’t have given a flying duck if you had voted to stay or leave.

It wasn’t the English or the welsh who had the vote it was Scotland who voted to stay.

By all means have another ref.

Why not that’s the fashion isn’t it? If the loud lot loose a vote they want another one to get the result they wanted.

Btw if you do go can you send us Ruth Davidson as she’s fab. You can keep Nicola

So much for any hope of a reasonable, polite, civilised solution to the current messes we are in then.

How was that not polite.

I was stating a fact. If Scotland wanted to go I think that’s perfectly acceptable as I am a democrat. You didn’t vote to go you voted to stay. If you want another ref great have one.

How is that not resiectful?

Respectful? Sorry

And I think I was polite I said my views are not personal I have many Scots mates who I love very much including my sil.

I absolutely agree Mycat! Unlike the EU, this country isn't in the business of keeping people against their will, so as far as I can see if the people of Scotland want to leave the union that's absolutely fine, and it would be very wrong to make it so difficult as to make it impossible. Same goes for Wales and NI. Surely you Scots who are desperate to leave the Union can understand that this is how some of us feel about leaving the EU?!

Totally agree, if the Scots want to leave the UK then leave, but be very aware that the EU might not want you without the rest of the United Kingdom and if they do it might take years to join.

I agree that it would be irresponsible and unfair and indeed hypocritical to put obstacles in the way, if Scotland (or Wales or NI) wanted to leave the UK.
There is nothing to be lost by them trying, therefore it cannot be held against us if they fail to secure the freedom from WM which they crave.
Good luck.

I know a poster wants independence! I support that if that majority do but that makes me impolite, uncivilised and unreasonable!

Baffling!

I don't want to appear stupid, but what does WM mean?

Westminster

I can only speak for myself but no I am not "desperate" to leave the UK. When asked to vote on the issue, five years ago, I was told leaving the UK would mean leaving the EU and was duped by Project Fear.

The UK could have left the EU on March 29 if all of the Tories and their pals the DUP had agreed to do so. They had 3 years to plan and prepare to do this, but seemed to make a bit of a mess of it, including requesting the inclusion of a NI backstop which they've spent a lot of money and time trying to wriggle out of, while blaming everyone else for their own doo doo.

The situation has changed for all of us, In any other era, we'd have had a general election by now. Under any other government, there would have been a confirmatory referendum on the deal once it became obvious it was having problems getting passed at Westminster.

Once out of the EU, all Scotland's agreements will go through Westminster before being selectively returned to Holyrood at the whim of, probably, the ruling Conservatives or Labour, neither of whom have shown any sign of caring two whits for Scotland.

As most Scottish laws are aligned with those of the EU, this will be a major, unwelcome change for us.

Not desperate to leave the omnishambles as I keep hoping common sense will prevail. However, I'd like another say now we are aware how close we'll have to get with the Saudis and Trump and now we know whose hands will be on the UK tiller.

Oh....wait a minute....?

Mycatisahacker - thank you

So how was my post so offensive!

We all had project fear! You fell for it and we didn’t.

Why were you so defensive about my post supporting you Leaving If the majority wants to go??

Can you explain that please as I am
Very puzzled

srn63

and were you an SRN? If so cheers me too. Much better than RGN

Same goes for Wales and NI.
Please don't tar the Welsh with the same brush, those posters who have included them with the Scots.

Why would you do that?

If Scotland wanted to leave the UK! But it doesn't. That was clearly demonstrated in 2014 and in the polls ever since. The Braveheart brigade make a lot of noise but the silent majority quietly get on with life as part of the United Kingdom.

Mycatisahacker - yes I was, srn are also my initials, I think it was meant to be.

srn63

Ah the good old days of nursing school, scary sister tutors, matrons and getting your stripes on your hat! It was clearly meant to be.

Op I have never met another poster who posts, gets an agreement to that posts and then strops.

Again what was unreasonable impolite and uncivilised about my reply.

Still baffled

I should have said 'certain Scots Nationalists' Jane10 - apologies.
My Scottish friends do not want independence.

Calistemon

For my part, I mentioned that if Wales or NI wanted independence (and some do) then they should be afforded the right to do so, like Scotland.
That is not 'tarring with the same brush' which has a different meaning.

Still can’t see why my post so offended you Calondenail

I think about 5% of people in Wales want independence, Gabriella!
Compared to less than 45% in Scotland.