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How very dare he!

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phoenix Sat 01-Jun-19 16:18:29

Why anyone would think that a "pussy" (his word, not mine) grabbing, sexist, racist egomaniac is "great" is utterly beyond meconfused

KatyK Sat 01-Jun-19 15:51:29

My brother, who is in his late 60s, told me that he thinks Donald Trump is great and that he couldn't get his head around the fact that I don't agree. confused

jura2 Sat 01-Jun-19 11:17:47

Thank you Luckygirl - she had to contend with hatred from a large % of Republicans all the way. People say you should not let 'politics' get in the way of friendships or family. But when my favourite cousins in Arizona called her 'that nasty black b*tch' - that was it. Never said anything- but just severed bridges. In hr last message she wrote 'we trust our wonderful President (NOT Obama..) to do what is best for us'.

Septimia Sat 01-Jun-19 11:15:47

I can't understand why anyone would like Trump. The way he holds on to his wife makes me wonder if he's afraid she might try to escape!
I know there are various protests planned for during his visit, but wouldn't it be better if he was totally ignored? No demonstrations, no-one on the streets to wave/be waved at, minimal press coverage (as if!). everyone just act as if he wasn't here.

ayse Sat 01-Jun-19 11:07:18

Loathsome man and all he stands for! His like of Boris and Nigel say it all ????

Teacheranne Sat 01-Jun-19 10:55:05

Unfortunately for my son, he lives in the US and has married into a family of avid Trump supporters!

Calendargirl Sat 01-Jun-19 10:23:59

EllanVannin
It’s a bit of a sweeping statement to say nobody over the age of 65 should be a leader of any sort. That rules out Churchill for a start.

Anniebach Sat 01-Jun-19 10:05:58

She did say more than that , as was her right and his right to
respond

Iam64 Sat 01-Jun-19 10:03:02

Humph! The man is odious on every level. I read this morning he's been told that Meghan M voted for Hilary in the 2016 election because she didn't want to live in the kind of world he was planning/painting. He's quoted as saying "oh I didn't know she was nasty". That just about sums up the level of his intelligence and psychology doesn't it. If you don't love him, you're nasty!

KatyK Sat 01-Jun-19 10:01:25

I'm not sure that Trump endorsing Boris will ruin his chances. I know several people, including members of my own family, who think Trump is the bees knees. I am astonished.

ditzyme Sat 01-Jun-19 09:36:46

Certainly agree with bluebelle. Do we tell him who he should have as Vice President etc. I am sure he would be quick to tell us to mind our own business and let him get on with his.

Luckygirl Sat 01-Jun-19 09:34:07

Two idiots - they suit each other.

There is a wonderful autobiography by Michelle Obama and I will paste my review for the local mag - I am sure everyone would enjoy reading it - amazing lady!

"Becoming by Michell Obama
Michelle Obama’s most famous “becoming” is as the first African-American to hold the position of US First Lady: an awkward role that essentially and almost by definition involves a woman striving to make a man look good. But there is so much more to her than this. First and foremost, she can write, and write well. And she is a woman of prodigious intellectual capacity and erudition, alongside a down-to-earth realism; a woman of principle who truly cares.
Her childhood in a less affluent area of Chicago, and the influence of her strong, morally steady mother and solid nuclear family enabled her to bring to the White House a determination to make a difference for the better, to embrace causes that really mattered to her, and to use her new-found influence to further these. She became a powerful advocate for women and embraced the cause of improving the health of young Americans, specifically addressing the obesity crisis. She dug up a large chunk of the White House grounds to devote to growing vegetables, with the help of young people from the local community. And she brought up two girls, protecting them to the best of her ability from the excesses of their position.
Her description of her courtship and marriage is delightful, romantic even, and at the same time realistic. “I understand now that even a happy marriage can be a vexation; that it is a contract best renewed and renewed again, even quietly and privately – even alone.” “Coexisting with Barack’s strong sense of purpose – sleeping in the same bed with it, sitting at the breakfast table with it – was something to which I had to adjust.” It takes some courage for a woman in her position to write that.
She is at her most eloquent on the subject of racial discrimination, which she describes entirely without rancour, but with a clarity that brings home the realities and the subtleties to those of us who have never experienced this.
“[School] gave me a glimpse of ……….the apparatus of privilege and connection; what seemed like a network of half-hidden ladders and guide ropes that lay suspended overhead to connect some but not all of us to the sky.” Redolent of the British class system, I felt, in all its manifestations, but primarily in education.
She gets inside this subliminal sense of inferiority……”Failure is a feeling before it’s an actual result.” And she recognises the obstacles that lie in the way of true integration, when at Princeton College: “It takes energy to be the only black person in a lecture hall or one of a few non-white people trying out for a play………It requires effort, an extra level of confidence, to speak in those settings and own your presence in the room.” “ It’s hard to put into words what sometimes you pick up in the ether, the quiet cruel nuances of not belonging – the subtle clues that tell you not to risk anything; to find your people and just stay put.”
Her story is warm, forgiving and wise; but she is openly critical of political processes in the US with their “lofty promises and platitudes “ and unflinchingly scathing about what followed them into the white House: “the vibrant diversity … gone, replaced by what felt like a dispiriting uniformity, the kind of overwhelmingly white and male tableau I’d encountered so many times.”
I cannot recommend this book too highly – it is a unswerving insight into both American politics and into a remarkable woman, who somehow managed to make the role of First Lady her own with grace and charm and steely determination."

EllanVannin Sat 01-Jun-19 09:27:17

I liked Obama and his lovely wife. They were a breath of fresh air.
Nobody above the age of 65 should be a leader of any sort.

Sara65 Sat 01-Jun-19 07:57:39

I agree with Bluebelle, I’d be happy if I never heard a word from Trump, Johnson or Farage ever again!

phoenix Sat 01-Jun-19 07:28:42

So, that's one breach of protocol, and he's not even here yet!

I absolutely detest the man!

Grandad1943 Sat 01-Jun-19 07:25:34

Well, I would think that being endorsed by Donald Trump would ruin anybody's chances of getting elected to anything. hmm

Calendargirl Sat 01-Jun-19 07:18:46

Well, I suppose Obama also stuck his nose in re Brexit. I suppose if you are the leader of the free world, you feel entitled to stick your nose in, whether or not it’s appreciated is another matter.

BlueBelle Sat 01-Jun-19 07:18:25

I see red when I even hear that whiney voice
So he loves Farage and johnson, three of a kind, I wish they’d find a desert island and live together happily ever after ???

phoenix Sat 01-Jun-19 07:12:27

Bloody Trump, sticking his nose in!

The arrogance of the man angry