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Sadiq Kahn’s views on Donald Trump - unprofessional?

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Kandinsky Sun 02-Jun-19 19:03:24

Not sure if gransnetters outside of London know what our mayor is saying, but he’s going way over the top in my opinion.
He really needs to keep his personal hatred of another politician to himself, especially a politician who’s one of our greatest allies.

What do you think?

Gonegirl Tue 04-Jun-19 14:53:50

Does anyone else really not care whether there are demonstrations against Trump or not? He seems fairly thick skinned to me. If people want to have a day out enjoying themselves, let them. All part of life's rich.........

Jabberwok Tue 04-Jun-19 14:53:10

Excellent post, couldn't agree with you more Opal!

Gonegirl Tue 04-Jun-19 14:51:18

I think I agree with that.

Opal Tue 04-Jun-19 14:33:20

And in my opinion, to which I am fully entitled, left wingers who think that all right wingers are fascists and racists ARE idiots.

Ginny42 Tue 04-Jun-19 14:29:39

Now you see your last word let your argument down Opal. Others may have a different perspective from you and all opinions are equally valid, whether you agree with them or not. It does not warrant calling anyone an idiot. Calling others idiots negates your argument - in my opinion.

Opal Tue 04-Jun-19 14:15:05

The left wing comments on here make me feel physically sick. You don't know the meaning of "fascist", you use the term so loosely. People with right wing politics are NOT all "fascists"!!! I'm sick of being accused of being a fascist and a racist because I believe in conservatism and capitalism. "Fascists" were trying to take control of Europe 75 years ago, and it was our fathers and grandfathers, together with many American and Allied soldiers, who defeated them. If you lot had been running the country 75 years ago, instead of that great Statesman Churchill, we'd have lost the war and we'd all be speaking German now and saluting the Nazi flag. Anyone that is right wing is a fascist in your eyes, your ignorance beggars belief, you really don't have a clue. Your hero is Corbyn, you know, the man who meets with Hamas and Hezbollah and the IRA, but won't meet with the man who currently holds the Office of President of the United States. I could go on, but I honestly despair of the lot of you leftist idiots.

Day6 Tue 04-Jun-19 14:12:59

Good post POGS. I agree with every word.

Day6 Tue 04-Jun-19 14:10:17

Or the people who refuse to tolerate bigotry, misogyny and racism

And not notice there is heck of a lot of extreme left wing bigotry and intolerance going on in London demonstrations too?

That is conveniently forgotten. Left wing intolerance and bigotry is conveniently seen as morally superior. hmm

POGS Tue 04-Jun-19 14:09:32

POGS Sat 07-Jul-18 11:29:28

It is childish .

The Lord Mayor of London has made his personal views of Donald Trump perfectly clear and it is a fact the Lord Mayors Office sanctioned the use of the blimp. Whether he is right or wrong in doing so will be viewed differently.

Often there is talk of how we look as a country and to be frank I think we are looking pretty stupid over this .

The fact is Donald Trump has met with leading Politicians of other countries such as Merkel, Putin, Macron . Trump has met with the Kings of Spain, Jordan . Trump has visited Belgium, China, Japan, Italy , Poland etc. etc. all with little to know trouble.

The hypocrisy of going to town to show disapproval of Donal Trump eludes me. I wish the protesters would go to the Embassies of Syria, Iran, Egypt, Turkey, Burma/Myanmar where 1000's have either gone missing, imprisoned, killed or fleeing conflict but the likes of Aung San Suu Kyi were feted and goodness knows how Iran and Assad of Syria get away with so little complaint from some.

London is the UK capital of business and commerce and the Lord Mayor is the high representative and this is not the time in our countries history to make enemies of allies.
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I posted that the last time this subject came up and I stick by what I say.

Both Khan and Trump should behave with more diplomacy for heavens sake but the hypocrisy by ' some' that surrounds the whole thing is astounding.

Hypocrisy by those who won't say a bad word against the likes of Moduro, Aung San Suu Kyi, Putin, Assad, Hammas, Hezbollah, Erdigan, Iran etc.

They all have either ' acted' out murder, caused untold harm to their own people, caused millions to leave their homeland, would throw homosexual off buildings, imprisoned dissenters etc.

There will be many at the Trump demonstration but watching the Americans interviewed on TV I wonder if they realise who/what they may be enabling by joining in. The Far Left in this country such as Corbyn have always been anti the US, it is their DNA and to ' some', certainly not all this is as much about their politics as it is the person.

I think Corbyn/Bercow/Khan/ Cable et al have shown a lack of diplomacy and who was the supposed ' Conviction Politician' who when challenged over his dubious political connections often said " IT'S GOOD TO TALK , ISN'T IT '?

Day6 Tue 04-Jun-19 14:04:42

It is because you were dismissive of Ellan's comment that I replied Glammy57

They are not connected, but you suggesting she is strange and needs help because she remembered with bad feeling the horrific death butchering of Lee Rigby. I suspect she is not alone. Most of us abhor those who murder in the name of Islam.

I find some irony in a Muslim man, Khan, telling the world that Trump's treatment of women is deplorable. We have discussed the subjugation of Muslim women on GN many a time. I agree that Trump's record is deplorable, but I'd suggest Khan has a plank in his eye if he does not condemn the practices of others in western society, nearer to home, as well.

Anniebach Tue 04-Jun-19 13:46:02

You know everyone’s views on racism and Islamophobia trisher, your knowledge is amazing

trisher Tue 04-Jun-19 13:41:53

As for his "Trump hating wife" has no one noticed that both Sadiq and Meghan are not white and therefore feel more angry about the racism than the rest of us? I believe a lot of the people posting on here have objected to anti-semitism, well how about you keep the same values and object to racism and Islamaphobia as well?

Anniebach Tue 04-Jun-19 13:26:34

Harry did what was his place to do, he was at the palace when the Trumps arrived, in the background with Trumps
children.

Beckett Tue 04-Jun-19 13:13:11

From the pictures I have seen (I don't take that much interest) Harry seemed to be entertaining other guests whilst the Queen was busy with Trump - seems about right to me.

Anniebach Tue 04-Jun-19 11:30:33

Harry is a minor royal , why do some expect him to be to the fore

Callistemon Tue 04-Jun-19 11:11:25

Harry was there doing his duty, but as not one of the main royals what was he supposed to do - push his way to the front, shove his grandmother, father and brother out of the way?
We didn't see everything so presumably he greeted Trump at some point and keeping his real feelings under control presumably.

EllanVannin Tue 04-Jun-19 11:05:03

Jabberwok it sadly looks as though Prince Harry is being " controlled " by his Trump-hating wife. I sincerely hope that isn't the case as I do remember reading that he was otherwise engaged on another mission during this visit. Again, whether this was purposely arranged, I wouldn't know.

EllanVannin Tue 04-Jun-19 10:56:15

Totally agree Tickingbird, well said.

Jabberwok Tue 04-Jun-19 10:49:04

You're so right Annie! Presumably lack of democracy, human rights and Tiananmen Square, not to mention Tibet are perfectly ok when it's China, but a visit from the Potus is a signal for hysterical, childish rude damaging protests, that will change absolutely nothing. Prince Harry needs to polish up his manners and sense of duty too. Perhaps someone needs to remind him that along with all the wealth and privilege of his position, supporting his Grandmother is also part of the package, however distasteful it may personally be. Sulking in the corner is not!!

tickingbird Tue 04-Jun-19 10:35:01

Well they’ll never be anything so they’ve got to make a name for themselves somehow. I must admit I do enjoy watching the lefties getting themselves all hysterical and foot stampy when they don’t get their own way. So funny.

SirChenjin Tue 04-Jun-19 10:25:48

Excellent! Well done them ???

TerriBull Tue 04-Jun-19 10:25:42

It was a state visit for heaven's sake by POTUS, of course Trump's an obnoxious individual, but have all the presidents been nice individuals or indeed any head of state as per the point of Annie's post regarding the President of China. It's about political expediency not the cult of the individual.

Going back to the OP, yes Sadiq Khan has been completely unprofessional as the Mayor of London he should come across as less partisan.

As for Corbyn pathetic! God forbid he ever becomes PM, he just doesn't have the gravitas to put aside his personal grievances and act the statesman which is requirement for the world stage, two faced it may be, but that's what's expected. Does anyone imagine Macron and Merkel have a high opinion of Trump but I can't imagine a scenario where they would not meet and greet on an official visit.

EllanVannin Tue 04-Jun-19 10:21:55

Corby's army are out in full force protesting-----no surprise there !

EllanVannin Tue 04-Jun-19 10:18:43

Why would Trump supporters have a chip on their shoulder ? For what reason ?

tickingbird Tue 04-Jun-19 10:17:25

I think Khan, Corbyn et al are a disgrace. The state of London and the rise in violent crime is something Khan should be ashamed of. Love or hate Trump, the depth of bile and insult toward him is typical of the liberal left and the rentamob brigade. When you consider the tyrants and despots we’ve entertained over here ie evil Mugabe (he ordered the bulldozing of orphanages in villages where they’d voted for an opponent), this outrage over Trump is hypocrisy to the nth degree. The man might be an embarrassment in many ways and dangerous in others but he was democratically elected and I find this flying of blimp balloons etc totally wrong and a shame on our country.

As for Corbyn, he attended a memorial for Arab thugs who tortured and murdered innocent Israeli athletes but refuses to meet Trump. Meets murdering IRA terrorists but won’t meet Trump? What a despicable piece of work he is.