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Sadiq Kahn’s views on Donald Trump - unprofessional?

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Kandinsky Sun 02-Jun-19 19:03:24

Not sure if gransnetters outside of London know what our mayor is saying, but he’s going way over the top in my opinion.
He really needs to keep his personal hatred of another politician to himself, especially a politician who’s one of our greatest allies.

What do you think?

Callistemon Tue 04-Jun-19 10:13:21

I think we should put Kirstie in charge of both of them.
She would confiscate their phones/iPads, smash them against the kitchen table leg and refuse to buy them new ones until they both stop tweeting.

She would also make them sit in economy whilst she, Mrs Trump and Mrs Khan sit in first class, at least until they both learn how to behave.

SirChenjin Tue 04-Jun-19 10:13:08

Or the people who refuse to tolerate bigotry, misogyny and racism.

crystaltipps Tue 04-Jun-19 10:11:51

“Disgruntled chip on their shoulders
Protesters”? Nothing like lumping everyone together. Could call Trump supporters the same if I was going to do a sweeping generalisation which some on here seem fond of.

EllanVannin Tue 04-Jun-19 10:07:34

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Anniebach Tue 04-Jun-19 10:02:34

And he is supported by many Americans.

Why didn’t the President of China get all this flack when he had a state visit two years ago ?

Corbyn who wants to be PM attended the state banquet for the Chinese President but is joining the protests for the American President

Grany Tue 04-Jun-19 09:59:28

Trump want to buy up our NHS so not really an ally.

There will be demonstrations in Trafalger Square today when people will turn their back on him in a silent protest. A good thing too horrible man.

People need to stand up and speak truth to power.

trisher Tue 04-Jun-19 09:40:06

If I were a racist mysoginistic Islamaphobe I probably wouldn't notice EllanVannin. If I saw such a response to someone like that I would think 'good for them"
Where does this concept that all Americans like Trump come from? He is possibly going to be impeached. He is hated by many Americans especially women.

Glammy57 Tue 04-Jun-19 09:37:42

Day6 - I am being dismissive of EllanVannin’s ridiculous comment: “I have never felt the same since Lee Rigby’s death”! How on earth is that related to the discussion of Sadiq Kahn and Donald Trump?

EllanVannin Tue 04-Jun-19 09:36:59

______complete with big fat balloon.

EllanVannin Tue 04-Jun-19 09:35:16

How would all the protesters feel if they were greeted in this way after landing in the States ( as presumably many fly there on holiday !) " we don't want you in our country " !
Imagine being met with a billboard " go home " etc etc. Not very welcoming is it ?
To those who go to the States--------stop being two-faced !

SirChenjin Tue 04-Jun-19 08:38:16

The PC brigade crystal, obviously grin

crystaltipps Mon 03-Jun-19 20:29:49

There s an American balloon of Trump on a toilet that has been brought over by some Americans who
say they are embarrassed by Trump. Not sure who will get the blame for that one.

eazybee Mon 03-Jun-19 20:15:18

As I have said on another thread he has a sense of humour a blimp of him in a bikini was flown as well. It's a joke FFS.

Clearly one that appeals to the lowest common denominator.
Crude, like your language.

Elvive Mon 03-Jun-19 20:14:31

Those that murdered Lee Rigby were " insulting whites?"

Those that don't like Trump and protest are " insulting whites?"

This has got to be one of the most ill informed and offensive things that has been posted here.

Doodle Mon 03-Jun-19 20:08:23

I think they are both wrong too. I think the blimp is rude and should not have been allowed. Whatever you think of Trump (and I do not care for him at all) to be rude just brings us down to a low level.

EllanVannin Mon 03-Jun-19 20:04:20

Par for the course, Elvive. Their insults for the whites as well as their actions towards them !

Callistemon Mon 03-Jun-19 20:01:44

trisher Mon 03-Jun-19 13:00:39
I think they are both in the wrong

Neither are political satirists - they are supposedly serious politicians and neither is acting like one at times.

Elvive Mon 03-Jun-19 19:46:50

The murder of Lee Rigby by Islamist terrorists was totally wrong.

Khan is a Muslim. It appears he has been something of a disappointment in his role as mayor and has been rather foolish in his public spats with Trump.

What exactly is the connection between these 2 events?

Day6 Mon 03-Jun-19 19:35:21

Freddy Gray writes in The Spectator. Trump should not stoop to Sadiq Khan’s level,

(I have to say I agree with him.)

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/06/donald-trump-should-not-stoop-to-sadiq-khans-level/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Evening%20_Blend_20190603&utm_campaign=Evening_Blend

"I don’t think Trump should attack the London Mayor upon his arrival. He shouldn’t stoop to Khan’s level. He shouldn’t dignify Khan — who is little more than a left-liberal troll at this point — with a response."

"Trump being Trump, he can’t resist counter-punching Khan. Twitter spats are his modus operandi. But it is a shame that he has insisted on reigniting his feud with Khan, since there are far more interesting things to talk about at this important moment in the relations between America and Brexit Britain. Trump vs Khan is a silly distraction, a bit like that ridiculous (and oddly small) Trump baby protest blimp that commands so much media attention."

"Of course, Trump is still right that Khan should focus on knife-crime, which is soaring under his watch, instead of trying to score cheap points against Trump. But that is what he has become: a petty, press-release Mayor who has so far achieved very little and diminished his own office. When he was elected, Londoners celebrated the fact that a Muslim man could be elected, and rightly so. But he has been very unimpressive. Now the only time he commands any significant attention is when Donald Trump blows into town. Trump has just given him precisely the publicity he so craves. "

Day6 Mon 03-Jun-19 19:24:10

Glammy57

I find it alarming that you still harbour negative thoughts about something which happened in 2013!

I find it alarming that you can be so dismissive of an event that horrified the nation and indeed the world - an off duty British soldier mown down by a car and attacked by two Islamist terrorists who then attempted to cut off his head.

The murder of Lee Rigby will remain in the minds of everyone horrified that this poor young man was butchered to death on a London street.

Timeline, from the BBC.

22 May, 14:18 - Car driven at Lee Rigby

Michael Adebolajo drives the Tigra at 30-40mph (48-64km/h) straight at Lee Rigby as he crosses the road in Artillery Place. Adebolajo and Adebowale get out of the car armed with a meat cleaver, knives and a revolver. They attack the motionless body of Mr Rigby and Adebelojo attempts to decapitate him.

22 May, 14:21 - Fusilier Rigby dragged into road

I am not sure why the horror of that event should be forgotten or why thoughts about it would be anything other than "negative".

SueDonim Mon 03-Jun-19 19:11:19

I'm currently in the US, where people who've spoken to us have apologised for their president and who seem to find the blimp rather amusing and wish they'd thought of it first.

That just seems to be the view from this particular place on this side of the Big Pond.

Luckygirl Mon 03-Jun-19 19:08:41

Well - he probably should not have said it really - but, hell, Trump is such a prize pillock that he can be forgiven I feel.

Glammy57 Mon 03-Jun-19 18:59:02

EllanVannin - there was no humour in my response. I find it alarming that you still harbour negative thoughts about something which happened in 2013! I may have a different opinion if the late Lee Rigby was personally known to you.

trisher Mon 03-Jun-19 18:46:07

Only 3 US Presidents since 1952 have been given State visits why on earth give one to Trump?
And the balloons (both of them) are funny!!!

Anniebach Mon 03-Jun-19 18:35:14

Trump’s visit is to commemorate the dead of D Day. As President he is representing the people of America.

The behaviour of Khan, Cable, Corbyn, the Speaker is a disgrace.