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Lindylou51 Tue 04-Jun-19 14:00:22

Why has it become fashionable at protests to have young children or toddlers in pushchairs holding up banners/cards. It doesn't feel right to me to involve young children in what could be quite a frightening experience with mass chanting and crowds. I do understand that some parents are unable to get babysitters or perhaps they feel it gives more oomph to their cause.

whywhywhy Wed 05-Jun-19 11:34:15

All these protesters out there during the week - does nobody work anymore during the week/day?

gillybob Wed 05-Jun-19 11:26:03

With regards to EllanVannin's remarks regarding bullying in the NHS, I retired from the NHS 7 years ago and bullying was becoming quite commonplace. Not a very nice place to work by the time I left

I am quite shocked to hear you say this Lindylou and EllanVannin, as I know someone who works in the NHS and is being terribly bullied, to the point that she is seriously considering leaving, which I have begged her not to do. I have suggested she seek help via HR or OH or even her union, but she seems to think it would make things worse for her. I (wrongly) assumed it was unusual, but I must be terribly wrong.

Urmstongran Wed 05-Jun-19 11:24:33

I read recently that the baby boomers were the marchers of the 60’s. And they’re still keen on protesting.

Admittedly it sends a message.

But in my opinion, no one in power listens or reacts.

Waste of time? I wouldn’t do it. But that’s just me.
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Lindylou51 Wed 05-Jun-19 11:20:58

Interesting to hear the views of others. I guess, given the amount of media coverage of protests over the last few years, children in pushchairs are in the fore, more so than in the 60s/70s. I have never been on a protest march and am still not convinced it is a place for children, just my opinion.

With regards to EllanVannin's remarks regarding bullying in the NHS, I retired from the NHS 7 years ago and bullying was becoming quite commonplace. Not a very nice place to work by the time I left.

Hm999 Wed 05-Jun-19 11:20:57

Last year, I found it quite moving to see 3 generations of one family marching for the child's future.
Answering OP, I saw one child with ear defenders on, but it was no busier than any other crowd. I saw no child upset by the noise, and as we were in the road, there was plenty of space on the pavement or down side streets to escape if it all got too much.
There's a lot of negativity on this site sometimes; surprising as we're in part the Sixties generation who wanted a better world.

Anniebach Wed 05-Jun-19 10:46:00

I agree, Corbyn was campaigning - for votes.

Couldn’t dine with Trump but dining with the Chinese President? No problem for the great one.

NotSpaghetti Wed 05-Jun-19 10:45:30

Lindylou51 asks why has it become fashionable to take children on marches.

I don’t think it’s ever been fashionable and wonder why Lindylou51 think it is fashionable now.

My children came with me on marches when they were too small to leave behind, when they were big enough to make a choice, when they grew into adults and had children of their own. I am proud of this country for having the right to protest - and I promise you, “fashion” never came into it.

gillybob Wed 05-Jun-19 10:33:19

NHS Worker apologises after realising she'd been photographed' more like

My thoughts exactly Urmstongran . Imagine meeting her at an NHS appointment ? I bet her NHS trust employers are really proud of her.

gillybob Wed 05-Jun-19 10:31:06

Anniebach, few people were marching because it was a weekday when all the children where at school and the majority of others working

Oh I thought they would all take (that seemingly never ending) "annual leave" for protesting Grandad1943. You know like they did for the climate change protests?

Grandad1943 Wed 05-Jun-19 10:30:27

Apologies for the mistakes above, I am just off to the office and rushing things again.

Urmstongran Wed 05-Jun-19 10:29:16

I agree gillybob

'NHS Worker apologises after realising she'd been photographed' more like!

Was she on annual leave or did she phone in sick ..Wonder how she is getting on at work today, How is she being treated by work colleagues and what are her bosses saying about bring the NHS into disrepute... ?

gillybob Wed 05-Jun-19 10:28:22

You definitely can't be hanged for having an opinion Nanny41 .

My DGD's secondary school would be "down like a ton of bricks" on any children taking time out of school to protest. Yes by law they should be at school on school days.

PamGeo Wed 05-Jun-19 10:27:57

A mature nurse I worked with in a hospice in Bristol was a Quaker and went on lots of protests and had done all her adult life. She was a lovely caring quiet women and a very good nurse.

Grandad1943 Wed 05-Jun-19 10:25:57

Anniebach, few people were marching because it was a weekday when all the children where at school and the majority of others working, and was in all probability why the match was much smaller than of a weekend.

Those of those that heard Corbyns speech in full thought it was excellent I am tols, and once again demonstrated his strength in "on street campaining".

A taste of what may be to come if a General Election is called in the Autumn.

Nanny41 Wed 05-Jun-19 10:24:34

Marches if they are respectfullu organised ,but this latest thing about going on strike at School, thanks to little "pigtail Thunberg", is beyond me, arent you supposed by law to be at School, to learn, not to starve your self for some cause.Rant over,ready to be hanged.

gillybob Wed 05-Jun-19 10:21:01

My dad (a life long Labour party member) has just christened JC "Jeremy the garden grabber" confused.

I wasn't sure what on earth he was talking about.

Rowantree Wed 05-Jun-19 10:20:19

It definitely isn't new.
My parents took all of their children on CND marches in the early 60s. Sometimes we carried placards. I went on a Children's March to ban H-bomb tests when I was around 8 and was interviewed by some media tv person (don't think it was ever aired though!) I think it's admirable that many families include their children and bring them up to recognise they can make choices and that it's our responsibility to question the decisions of those in power if we believe them to be wrong. All power to them. Long may it continue - and it's now essential that many more join them.

counterpoint Wed 05-Jun-19 10:18:20

It’s naive to suppose big US healthcare firms will do things cheaper. Of course they can mobilise enough money to undercut NHS bidders until they have taken over the market. Then it is payback time and the prices go up. Will free at the point of delivery survive that? Apart from that, part of the motivation of many NHS staff is providing a public service. Working to make the maximum profit for a US company isn’t the same. So, no, free at the point of delivery isn’t the only criterion for a successful NHS.

Dunmiedin Wed 05-Jun-19 10:15:05

I often wonder that myself!

Anniebach Wed 05-Jun-19 10:13:36

There wasn’t gilly and considering there were so many reasons for people marching, Environment, Stop The War,
Nuclear Disarmament, LGBT, Anti Trump, and more, there were very few for so many different protests.

Then Corbyn waffles on about everything except ingrowing
toenails

Grandad1943 Wed 05-Jun-19 10:12:38

Urmstongran, we have witnessed private companies who supply health care to the NHS under contract fail time and time again, especially in mental care, aged person care and nursing home care etc.

Bringing to justice and correcting the failings of those that only see health care as "money making" can be difficult enough when those companies and persons are based in Britain or the European Union. However, bringing to justice or recovering money from those persons and organisations based in the United States, which has totally different court and justice system to Britain and the EU would be nothing short of a nightmare.

Barmeyoldbat Wed 05-Jun-19 10:10:48

I have been on marches and the last one I took my young gd. I see nothing wrong with it, I regard it as a way of teaching children how to be aware of whats going on and take action if they don't agree, lately we have seen children making a protest about plastic. Its their future and world and they need to learn how to handle it without fighting. And bh the way, I was working.

gillybob Wed 05-Jun-19 10:00:40

Sadly there wasn't one ounce of dignity at those protests yesterday Annie .

gillybob Wed 05-Jun-19 09:58:20

Not sure where the "Its p" came from ? confused

gillybob Wed 05-Jun-19 09:57:01

My imagination is not "running away with me" at all mazieD but I do think you are in denial if you cannot see that these protesters (or rent a thugs) were there to worship at the alter that is Jeremy Corbyn. you say "if you had lived closer to London you might have been there" Really? Have you even watched the horrific footage ?

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