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WHO DO YOU FANCY FOR OUR NEXT PM, AND WHY?

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Lyndiloo Thu 13-Jun-19 02:14:31

Well, there's 10 left in the race to be our next Prime Minister and voting starts tomorrow.

Who would you LIKE to be the next leader of the Tory party?

And who would you BET on?

GabriellaG54 Thu 13-Jun-19 18:31:39

Yea...stuff 'em. grin

Saggi Thu 13-Jun-19 18:28:18

I’m with Maisie.... couldn’t care less about Tories...all out for what their next expenses claim could be.Stuff the rest of us...and our paltry lives.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 13-Jun-19 18:23:56

mokryna yes! I remember that as well. People were very concerned. Obviously had more intelligence back then.

jura2 Thu 13-Jun-19 18:14:21

Could you elaborate Yorkshiregirl - which poor lady? Boris Johnson?

Yorkshiregirl Thu 13-Jun-19 18:09:54

There are some very petty COMMENTS on here. Yes I am shouting. Grow up and leave the poor lady alone. Some of you are behaving as bad as the muppets in parliament!

mokryna Thu 13-Jun-19 18:09:49

It will end up as the UK being under the hand of the US and treated like a friend as in the case of Canada who had agreements until they were torn up . I seem to remember headlines in times before (60s/70s) joining the EU asking if the UK was going to be the 51st state.

Sheilasue Thu 13-Jun-19 17:48:39

None of them, they are a disgrace. Nasty party and always will be.

GillT57 Thu 13-Jun-19 17:35:42

Alan Duncan is very funny and on point when he talks of his old boss Johnson. Duncan was known in government circles as the 'pooper scooper" because he spent all day clearing up Johnson's shit. End quote

jura2 Thu 13-Jun-19 17:35:02

... contempt...

jura2 Thu 13-Jun-19 17:34:46

"It's the arrogance. It's the contemps that's what gets me. It's Boris Johnson's apparent belief that he can just trample on the democratic will of the British people... the gigantic fraud.

They voted for David and yet they now get Boris. A transition about as democratically proper as the transition from Claudius to Nero. It is a scandal. Why are we all conniving in this stitch-up.... without a mandate of the British people.

No one elected Boris Johnson as PM. Boris Johnson could appease public indignation over that, by asking the public vote at once on him. Let's have an election without delay." .... and before he throws the country into Do Deal - which is certainly NOT what the people (whowever they are?!?) voted for.

Elvive Thu 13-Jun-19 17:33:02

"Boris Johnson described gay people as "bumboys", compared equal marriage to three men marrying a dog, discussed beating up a journalist with a criminal, called black people "piccaninnies" with "watermelon smiles", and was sacked twice for dishonesty.

Where is the scrutiny?"

Firecracker123 Thu 13-Jun-19 17:09:33

The people voted to leave in the referendum and hopefully that's what Boris will do.

jura2 Thu 13-Jun-19 17:05:02

So, people elected David Cameron ... and now, for the second time, .7 of the population with an average age over 60, will decide who the next PM is.

Boris Johnson in 2007 had very strong views re an un-elected PM taking over from Tony Blair:

"It's the arrogance. It's the contemps that's what gets me. It's Gordon Brown's apparent belief that he can just trample on the democratic will of the British people... the gigantic fraud.

They voted for Tony and yet they now get Gordon. A transition about as democratically proper as the transition from Claudius to Nero. It is a scandal. Why are we all conniving in this stitch-up.... without a mandate of the British people.

No one elected Gordon Brown as PM. Gordon Brown could appease public indignation over that, by asking the public vote at once on him. Let's have an election without delay."

Indeed Boris, the British public did NOT elect you- at all. It is not the job of .7% of the population, av. over 60, to decide the future of this country, and even less the future of our young people.

Glammy57 Thu 13-Jun-19 17:04:03

Jura2 - Jonathan Pie is great, I follow him on Facebook! ?

GabriellaG54 Thu 13-Jun-19 17:02:06

The greens are never going to be in No 10 in my or my AC's lifetimes.

GabriellaG54 Thu 13-Jun-19 16:56:48

Harmonygranny
As climate change affects the atmosphere and the atmosphere is 'tainted' and 'coloured' by emissions worldwide, you might be better directing your anger towards the China, India and Russia plus the USA which are HUGE polluters and that pollution eventually reaches us in the UK.
Whatever we do in the way of curbing emissions, it is only 1% of the emissions worldwide.

Firecracker123 Thu 13-Jun-19 16:51:30

paddyann yes by grassroots I meant the party members vote on the final two and he is their favourite.

Devorgilla Thu 13-Jun-19 16:47:37

Curlywhirly, we are already the laughing stock of the world. Lost the title briefly when Trump was elected, but definitely fighting hard to get it back. Just thankful I am not a member of the Tory Party and won't be responsible for inflicting any of them on our country as PM. It's like watching the worst car crash in slow motion and knowing you can't do anything to stop it.

crystaltipps Thu 13-Jun-19 16:47:03

I think * firecracker* thinks a few hundred superannuated white, middle class males living in the English south eastern shires are the “grassroots”

crystaltipps Thu 13-Jun-19 16:44:02

He doesn’t have any policies, certainly none that are consistent from day to day in the way he puts them. I don’t actually think he knows what he would do to get us out of the Brexit crisis.
He doesn’t always say the same thing, partly because he doesn’t always remember what he said the day before.
He tends to work day to day and just get his way through it - he’s not a man who’s interested in detail."
A rather generous assesment from one of his fellow Tories. Others who know him well and have worked with him call him a 'f***ing idiot'.

paddyann Thu 13-Jun-19 16:43:45

Excuse my ignorancefirecracker but isn't it just MP's and party members voting for the leader...the "grassroots" aren't allowed anywhere near it!

Aepgirl Thu 13-Jun-19 16:42:50

Don’t get political on GN.

Glammy57 Thu 13-Jun-19 16:42:23

Anni1 - Yes, I am under 75, but also very worldly. We do not all fit into little boxes. I know several people over the age of eighty, whom you would consider “lefties”. Life experience has taught many of us to be more compassionate and empathetic! I’m not a Tory hater but, sadly, so many of them come across as being very judgemental.

silverlining48 Thu 13-Jun-19 16:42:15

Well he certainly isn’t our favourite going by this thread.
He is not mine either, and as someone said we have allowed ourselves become the laughing stock of europe.

Firecracker123 Thu 13-Jun-19 16:37:12

Because Boris has the support of over a third of the MPs he will be in the final two, so Boris will be PM as he is the grassroots favourite.