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WadesNan Thu 13-Jun-19 11:08:55

Does anyone else think that Jo Brand's "joke" was in bad taste? Talking about the milkshake throwing she said "Why bother with milkshake when you could get some battery acid"

I appreciate she is anti-Brexit and she is entitled to share her views on that but surely this "joke" was a step too far.

maxdecatt Sat 15-Jun-19 18:26:56

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GrannyGravy13 Sat 15-Jun-19 18:18:29

Joan Rivers died in September 2014, perhaps that is why you haven't heard her lately??

Callistemon Sat 15-Jun-19 18:13:49

didn't Joan Rivers make jokes about the Twin Towers days after the event
Yes, she was roundly criticised too.
And have we heard from her since?

crystaltipps Sat 15-Jun-19 18:10:45

The police don’t come out to investigate burglaries and car theft ( thanks to Tory cuts) so why they would waste time on unfunny jokes is beyond me.

maxdecatt Sat 15-Jun-19 18:02:53

Can someone explain to me what "near the knuckle" and "edgey" humour is, and who decides what it is....the person who utters it, or the victim that suffers the result? Reading some posts on here it appears to be anything offensive, cruel and dangerous, but is okay if said by so-called comedians. Swearing on air is normal; these days and nobody turns a hair. It seems to be a requirement for types like Jo Brand. Does inciting violence against others now enjoy protected status?

Elvive Sat 15-Jun-19 18:02:20

slightly, possibly? The country is crumbling and we worry about this?

Gemmag Sat 15-Jun-19 17:40:19

Elvive.......are you trying to be funny?.

Elvive Sat 15-Jun-19 17:33:02

I have a nice necklace on today. I may clutch it and worry about locking up Jo Brand.

Gemmag Sat 15-Jun-19 17:28:06

WhitewaveMark2

‘The pearl clutching and moral panic’, what a stupid and very narrow minded remark to make.

Surely it’s as much the fault of the BBC as it is Blands. They choose to leave her very offensive remark in when they could have edited it out before going on air. The clearly didn’t see anything wrong with it which isn’t too surprising!. Dreadful woman.

Elvive Sat 15-Jun-19 17:27:49

lemon, please alert me to a pearl clutcher

Elvive Sat 15-Jun-19 17:27:10

Oh for Gods sake let's try and keep Corbyn ( he's rubbish, he's a Marxist, I hate him) out of this " discussion"

You cannot lock people up because they say something unfunny/mistimed/stupid.

I found the opening 3 or 4 minutes of Fleabag offensive, uncomfortable viewing. Guess what? I switched off.

mumofmadboys Sat 15-Jun-19 17:02:55

It was a stupid thing to day. She has apologised. It would be utterly insane to lock her up.

Labaik Sat 15-Jun-19 16:19:58

I thought it has been pointed out that it was a comment about milkshake throwing in general, not necessarily at Farage? And I still don't think anyone has condoned it; just pointed out that lots of people do and say pretty bad things but they don't get the publicity that this has.

lemongrove Sat 15-Jun-19 16:12:56

If the remark had been aimed at Corbyn, would the same posters still be saying ‘pearl clutching’ on here? I think we all know the answer would be a no ( sometimes the hypocrisy on GN is astounding.)

paddyann Sat 15-Jun-19 15:57:11

if we lock up everyone whose humour we dont like where do we draw the line? I remember (bad taste) jokes about Biafrans in the 80's and didn't Joan Rivers make jokes about the Twin Towers days after the event .I dont recall anyone yelling LOCK HER UP .The prisons are overcrowded as it is we'd need to build hundreds more to accomodate the bad joke tellers.She wasn't inciting violence ,she was on a programme thats known for being near the knuckle on humour and her audience laughed .

maxdecatt Sat 15-Jun-19 14:03:10

Jo Brand has twisted her so-called apolgy. Most on here have taken her apology at face value....exactly as she inteneded they should. But she then included a caveat to the apology when she said she made a mistake. THe caveat was, "I do not think I made a mistake". Those extra words were omitted in most media reports, but not by all.
So you really need to ask yourself....if she does not think she made a mistake it must mean that she believes she was right to suggest throwing acid over people she does not like. I repeat. LOCK HER UP.

GabriellaG54 Sat 15-Jun-19 13:34:18

A charge of incitement to violence has clear guidelines and this referral obviously did not reach the bar over which a successful prosecution is likely to be achieved.
Different officers on a different day may well have reached a different conclusion, as we do on here.
She (JB) clearly did not advocate throwing an acid filled drink at anyone. The suggestion that acid would have had more impact than milkshake was a very stupid remark but did not breach those guidelines.
I am not an admirer of Jo Brand but her earlier comedy was funny at the time, if a little near the knuckle.

Callistemon Sat 15-Jun-19 13:03:21

Well, I suppose you could say that the late great Dave Allen was offensive, but that was about the Catholic church, not about acid attacks on people.

I can see the difference.

Elvive Sat 15-Jun-19 12:57:51

No, she's not. I just mentioned it because it was recent, offensive and funny. It is possible to be the last 2 simultaneously.

Labaik Sat 15-Jun-19 12:56:35

Some of the comments on Farages twitter page are interesting eg one of his fans saying acid should be thrown over Jo Brand because it might improve her looks....

Callistemon Sat 15-Jun-19 12:49:04

Of course she shouldn't be 'locked up' - what she said was not funny and was quite offensive imo, considering the number of people whose lives have been destroyed by acid attacks, - but she has apologised.

Never heard of Annette Fagon, she is obviously not as high-profile as JB.

Elvive Sat 15-Jun-19 12:46:54

I recently saw Annette Fagon who was both funny and offensive. Should she be locked up?

How would this work? Would there be a sort of 2 minute test like an X factor audition with a panel ,who could press a go to jail buzzer?

Labaik Sat 15-Jun-19 12:44:40

These chants of 'lock her up' remind me, worryingly of Trump's 'drain the swamp'....[and seem to appeal to the same sort of people...]

maxdecatt Sat 15-Jun-19 12:38:41

Jannipat. You are wrtong. The Metroplitan Police Service (The MPS, or the Met) decided not to take any further action....that is they themselves decided not to refer the matter to the CPS, so the CPS never actually had to make a decision. That tells us that the Met support Jo Brand and protect her from the attention of the CPS, so her incitement to violence goes unchecked and opens the door to other rabble rousers like her. Says it all about the boys in blue, does it not? No doubt the next time a gang of terrorists run amok with knives and call it "Comedy" the Met will stand by and applaud their artistic endeavours in the name of edgey comedy. LOCK HER UP.

Elvive Sat 15-Jun-19 12:29:17

I don't really see how you could make saying ill timed and potentially offensive things illegal?

There would hardly be anybody left out of jail.

BJ and Jim Davidson would be early casualties.