Why do Conservatives like Johnson?

WadesNan Boris certainly isn't the first and he won't be the last to father an illegitimate child. Cast your mind back to Cecil Parkinson and his behaviour towards Sarah Keays and their daughter. At the same time he was part of the cabinet that espoused family values - ie - do what I say, not what I do. That's one reason why I and many non Tories object to Johnson's behaviour.

One major irritation of Johnson’s recent neighbours is his continual flouting if the law with regards parking restrictions.

Apparently his car is littered with tickets.

Time it was towed away.

I may have been that concerned too, we may have gone round to make sure all was OK, but not recorded it or gone to the papers.

Thank you, I live and learn.
I thought it was a knitting term
Perhaps it's all unravelling!

Tinking is a verb meaning (in this part of Scotland) having an argument loud enough to be heard by others and aggressive or insulting (or informative) enough to hint at the possibility of violence or further conflict.

It usually means having a bit of a yell/standoff in the street, but is most worrying when either a) You are caught in a confined space like a small shop where two people are tinking closeby, or b) you can hear it through walls but not sure how genuine and have the dilemma of whether to take action - as in call the police or knock on the door. It's particularly difficult at night, especially in the current climate of increased awareness of domestic abuse and the kind of social media criticism of "witnesses" who do nothing.

If I heard screaming and shouting and smashing and a female voice shouting "get off me" through the walls, I would have phoned the police.

I am no fan of Boris but I am sure he is not the first man (politician or not) who has been unfaithful, not wanted a child or tried to keep his private life private.

As far as I am aware he has never been accused of domestic violence - despite what you would like to believe.

Bozo has form, whether it is infidelity, encouraging a woman to abort his child or trying to suppress knowledge of his serial mothers.

Finding it difficult to believe that he had suddenly had a Damascene moment recently.

I read an account from another neighbour who said his partner was doing all the shouting and screaming, this neighbour said his voice was much quieter and calmer.

WWM2 is now accusing him of "possible domestic violence". There is no evidence of that. If this was just an argument between two strong minded people then it is no-one else's business. IF there is evidence either of them was violent towards the other then yes it needs to be investigated.

Isn’t this a question for Conservative Party members to answer?
It’s remarkable how many people think they know how Tories think, when they hardly know any Tories.
I have always been a Tory voter and last year I joined formally with the specific aim of being able to volunteer for Shaun Bailey, who is an excellent London mayoral candidate. I also voted to leave the EU because I feel the EU is an unrepresentative, fairly corrupt organisation and as a campaigner for animal welfare I’m very disappointed by the EU’s hypocrisy on that and other environmental issues.
I also believe in a mainly free market economy, private enterprise, pride in one’s country and the freedom of the individual - all values I have always assumed to be basically Tory.
So that’s where I stand.
But whenever I ask other Tories this question - why do people support Boris Johnson - the answer is always on the lines of “because he’s popular...the members love him”. Nobody can actually pin down anything more specific - it’s always circular: “they love him because he’s popular”.
So: MPs think party members like Boris. So they think he is a dead cert to win.
But nobody actually likes Boris, or feels loyalty to Boris, or gratitude to Boris, except Boris. They just believe other people do. He is loved in the way people “love” a TV celebrity. It’s no deeper than that. It can and will all turn around in an instant. He hasn’t saved the nation, like Churchill.
I think after yesterday’s disgusting debacle Boris is going to pull out again, as he doesn’t have the bottle to find out what Tory party members really think of him in a secret ballot.

I knew the Boris thing would be fun. It's started already! [rubs hands gleefully]

Wish I'd put money on Hunt when he was 7/1. He's now 4/1. Not that I'm encouraging gambling.

Not quite that simple max but you get the drift. The Queen will before then see if anyone else can cobble together a majority, but I think it almost entirely unlikely.

My history lessons tell me that when there is a deadlock in parliament the Queen can command a general election. As she did in Australia when the government there could not get their budget passed by the parliament. I think this was about 25 years ago, well before my time!

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Sexism - free pass?
Racism - free pass?
Incompetence - free pass?
Corruption - free pass ?
Plan to assault journalist - free pass?
Vote rigging - free pass?

Now Boris Johnson is getting a free pass? from the Media on possible domestic violence.

Soda water for red wine stains.

Try white wine Boris (on the stain, not drinking it). Then upholstery shampoo.

callistemon only if he can command a majority, and it is looking very unlikely at the moment.

A GE is more likely

I wonder if Marina is having a wry smile to herself.
Perhaps he's met his match this time.

My crystal ball tells me that he may well not get the keys to No 10 either, with or without Carrie!

stramash tinking
This thread is extending my vocabulary no end

Ps what is tinking - surely they weren't knitting?

So if Johnson can’t command a majority when he goes to the Queen, he’s toast surely?

It seems that a GE is a dead cert before the summer is out.

Crystalips you posted your comment just before 6 am this morning. You are an early riser! I have just surfaced at 9.25am.

Might be important

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Dominic Grieve effectively saying Tory MPs will prevent Boris Johnson commanding a majority in the Commons and that the Queen will have to call on someone else

I think his first comment in his hustings should be to ask if anyone knows a sure way to get red wine out of an expensive sofa.

He needs a bit of humour now to get people back on-side.

Can you imagine what neighbourly relations are going to be like now?! He's gonna have to move out, never mind where to.

His latest stramash hardly fills me with confidence about our future Prime Minister.
Involving the police in a domestic?
I suppose if he makes No 10 the copper on the door will be handy.

For many years maybe most of my life I have been sentimentally gullible about MPs . I really believed that MPs were conscientious towards their country, patriotic even. Now I believe that MPs do this work to earn their livings, and will take no risks with the interests of themselves or their business associates. MPs are above average intelligent and The Conservative Party is their business association.

In view of their carelessness with the welfare of our dear old country, and our global environment and climate, I have to conclude that Conservative MPs are in it solely for the money they earn.