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Why do Conservatives like Johnson?

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Alexa Wed 19-Jun-19 09:06:02

Most of the Conservative MPs are intelligent , I must suppose. I am not being sarcastic, I truly dont know why they want Johnson.

crystaltipps Thu 04-Jul-19 14:12:34

Remind us who took police off the street?

GrandadShaggy Thu 04-Jul-19 13:52:12

Hmm, that is a good point Suzie, and well put.

( retires quickly back to the shed)

suziewoozie Thu 04-Jul-19 13:35:40

Grandad - the election is for the leader of the Conservative Party. This man will become PM but of a country that had a General Election 2 years ago based on a manifesto which was put to the electorate. The ‘promises’ these men are making are being put to party members alone and the rest of us whatever party we support, cannot express our opinions through a vote. The only thing these candidates should be discussing is the detail of implementing the referendum result - not tax changes, NI changes , fox hunting or anything else for that matter.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 04-Jul-19 13:02:22

suzi ?absolutely. They have spent billions upon billions in their spending plans and that without factoring in the no deal cost.

This is The summer of Lies

GrandadShaggy Thu 04-Jul-19 12:58:59

But it is a selection process for our next PM, so it doesn't get much more important than that smile

suziewoozie Thu 04-Jul-19 12:54:39

Anyone who believes anything at the moment that Boris and Jeremy are saying really needs to give their head a wobble. Does anyone else keep having to remind themselves that this election is neither a General Election or a Presidential Election or is it just me?

westendgirl Thu 04-Jul-19 12:28:08

Boris has said a lot of things. Whether he will fulfill his promises is a completely different matter.

newnanny Thu 04-Jul-19 12:22:10

Boris did not rugby tackle child, he just pushed him. I am pretty sure if Boris had wanted to hurt child he could have by tackling him properly. I still think Boris is going to win and lead us out of EU by Oct 31st. He has just added he will put more police on the streets. There is a lot of knife crime so that is good.

jura2 Tue 02-Jul-19 09:02:58

newnanny- have you ever severely injured a child- broken bones, concussion,,or worse- beating them at Ludo?

There is a good reason why rugby is played within age groups- as in any responsible club or school. GD is 9 and is the youngest in under 11s- she does not play with her brother who is in under 14s- and should never be confronted at full pelt by a fat bully like Johnson. The comparison is just nonsense.

newnanny Mon 01-Jul-19 23:36:32

Boris likes to win. I understand that because I do too. I don't play rugby but when I play Ludo with children I build up double counters and do not let them pass, I beat them at Monopoly and draughts too. I never let children win just because they are a child. It would be condescending. I am sure Boris introduced the bikes in London and painted them blue. Jura2 I had never thought of woman with faces covered as letter boxes and have a few Muslim friends who cover their hair but not their faces. I like the French, so much so that I have bought a house in France and spend a lot of time there. I do not think I am racist in the slightest. I let my buy2let houses to Polish and Romanian as well as English tenants. I don't discriminate on race. I just think Boris will get us out of the EU because his political career will depend upon it.

Dinahmo Mon 01-Jul-19 22:56:07

newnanny You cannot be serious!

jura2 Mon 01-Jul-19 19:57:58

Callistemon- just watched again- you are right he didn't- by miracle and because the kid was quick and nimble. Nevertheless- anyone who tackles a small kid like that, is not quite right in the head.

Gonegirl Mon 01-Jul-19 19:49:24

He's just an over-excitable idiot! grin

Callistemon Mon 01-Jul-19 19:47:29

fell with his whole weight on him.
we must have been looking at a different video then.

jura2 Mon 01-Jul-19 19:47:05

Look at his face - against a small kid sad

youtu.be/IBt8AoLBCoo

jura2 Mon 01-Jul-19 19:44:32

Just watched the video again- he pushed him very hard and fell with his whole weight on him.

Both GDs play rugby, and sil and DD1 are trained rugby coaches- no cotton wool in our family for sure.

Callistemon Mon 01-Jul-19 19:13:58

He didn't rugby tackle him - he gave him a glancing shove with his arm and the child was laughing jura.
Perhaps should have wrapped them all up in cotton wool first.

jura2 Mon 01-Jul-19 18:36:52

Honest in the sense the people who like him would have liked to call Muslim women 'letterboxes' themselves, or the French 'turds', and on and on- racist, bullying, inexcusable insults.

jura2 Mon 01-Jul-19 18:35:25

newnanny- he could have seriously injured that kid- how would you feel about his 'honesty' if he had broken his arm or worse, his neck. Honesty? for sure not- just a massive selfish bully, no less.

Callistemon Mon 01-Jul-19 17:47:40

Newnanny the Boris bikes were instigated by Ken Livingstone
Really?
The bikes were introduced in 2010 and Boris had been Mayor for two years by then.

Perhaps Ken had thought about it but got nowhere. The quickest move he ever made was when he somehow, by fair means or foul, became Leader of the GLC in 1981 in a takeover by the left.

Ilovecheese Mon 01-Jul-19 12:44:47

But Boris Johnson did not introduce the congestion charge. That was Ken Livingstone.

dragonfly46 Mon 01-Jul-19 12:44:05

Newnanny the Boris bikes were instigated by Ken Livingstone as was the Oyster card which improved London transport making the city cleaner. Boris did very little in his term as mayor except spend money on plans for bridges etc which were not feasible.

Pantglas1 Mon 01-Jul-19 12:34:31

Good to read a post on this thread, newnanny, that simply sets out the reasoning for an opinion without getting personal with other posters. Well done.

newnanny Mon 01-Jul-19 12:12:33

I like him because he is competitive. I saw him rugby challenge a child in a contest. It was so funny as most politicians would have just let the child win and I really hate that insincerity and fake behaviour. In that sense he is honest that he wants to win. He won London, a very Labour City, twice and when he was in charge he ran London well. He did a brilliant job of hosting Olympics in 2012. The Olympics ran like clockwork in London. I went to several events myself and the transport links and security around events was really good. All of the stabbings we keep hearing about in London were not happening when Boris was in charge. He is popular among younger voters who like him because he is funny. My boys do not like politicians at all but they do like Boris because he has a big personality. One son also has just reminded me that Boris also improved the air quality in London with his Boris Bikes and charging zones to reduce car pollution. Most importantly I believe he is the candidate most likely to lead us out of EU on 31st October if we have no deal by then. I don't believe Hunt will do that. That is why I like Boris. Hunt is too establishment for me. Those are my reasons.

whywhywhy Mon 01-Jul-19 11:03:56

I think they are all idiots, so they like him. It doesn't make sense. This is the worse government that we have ever had and Boris will make it worse. x