Is anyone else concerned about 5G?

When I worked on a sick children's ward in the 50's, there was no cancer.
Chronic whooping cough, smallpox, TB ( I had to be inoculated for both ) yellow jaundice and diabetes. They were mainly infectious diseases.

Eloethan thank you..... yes i feel and think much the same as you.
The issue is being underplayed. And under reported.

There was an article recently in the Guardian along the lines of 5G how cool is this? I made a comment about bees being affected and was very much laughed at and ridiculed. But I had been listening to a Doctor and Physicist podcast where he was fearful of what 5G will/may do to the natural world.

I also agree that including the number of elderly people with cancer is not the issue. It is the young un with those awful brain tumours and similar that has increased and is being hidden amongst other statistics.

the point is that no-one knows for certain until it is rolled out....which is the opening of Pandora's box and therefore too late if it is bad.

I am researching when I can for scientific research but have been told that steps have been taken to make research hard to find on google....by messing with the SEO thing. And that is why it is hard to find out real information.

Have no idea of the concerns and really don't care. I am surprised that people survived the Middle Ages. I think all be ok

Pinkquartz No, I certainly wasn't referring to your comments. If I was directing my post to you I would have addressed it to you - which is what I generally do. I wouldn't want you to think I was getting at you.

I think this subject is a complicated one and is probably one that many of us do not have in-depth knowledge of - or perhaps any knowledge at all. I include myself in that, other the various things I've read and seen.

I have similar concerns to your own. I was pre-empting those who may well say that some internet footage on this subject is light on fact and heavy on hysteria. I think that is true of some of the stuff I've seen. However, I do feel uneasy that there has been very little coverage of the comments of scientists and doctors who question the wisdom of rolling out 5G without making a thorough assessment of risk. There has been much discussion of HuaWei/China, and of possible security risks but very little - if anything - about health.

I also don't buy the argument that the increased numbers of people suffering from cancer is due to people living longer. I have known so many relatively young people (well under 60) who have died from cancer and just as many who appear to be cured or are in remission. I think someone up-thread has already noted that the figures for younger people getting cancer are increasing.

Babies and young children have never been cancer free. looking back to my childhood I can remember several children who had cancer, including toddlers.

Pollutants and livng conditions can also contribute to the incidence of cancer, but think back to the days when coal was burnt as a domestic fuel and provided nearly all our electricity. This kind of pollution has been controlled, but others - that from fuels now used for transport has replaced them.

Overall childhood mortality as well as adult has gone down dramatically. Instead of dying from infectious diseases, heart disease and a host of other illnesses we forget were once fatal, we are dying of illnesses like cancer and having more time and opportunity to develop cancers - and that applies as much to children as to adults.

The question is why are babies and young children succumbing to this dreadful disease during their short lives on this earth ?

I always use the speaker on my mobile instead of having it clamped to my ear.

What is the question?

As we get older we can accept/expect the fact that our risk for cancer-related illnesses is increased------but for babies and children what's the answer to that ?

Do you mean me Eloethan? I am not sure.......I have read books and listened to podcasts. I have condensed my replies because I am ill and don't have much energy.
I am fearful for the babies and children because they don't have a choice.
If I cannot handle the energy/radiation of a mobile phone then I do wonder what it might be doing to a young brain.
By the time we find out it might be too late sadly.

How many people now have sleeping difficulties? memory problems? depressions? These are the kinds of changes likely to happen not a massive obvious cancers I think from what the research I have done.
Changes in the brain and the immune system will occur first.

It is now known that screens decrease Melatonin and children and young people are being affected. They don't sleep, or concentrate properly Their behaviour and moods are changed. So really it is already beginning with the tech we have.

People cannot say it is harmless because it already is harmful and this is the beginning. Yes that sounds a bit too dramatic but I do worry.

Some of the people expressing serious concerns about the introduction of 5G spend too much time getting snippets of information from the internet, from which they make wild, and improperly substantiated, predictions. But along with the usual "knee jerk" alarmists, there are reputable, highly qualified scientific and medical experts who are very unhappy about the way 5G is being rolled out. Is it wise to just dismiss their views out of hand?

Monica I don't think it is a matter of saying one kind of pollution is worse than another, it is now a matter that our bodies are not designed to take on all the toxins it has to deal with and so many of us are ill, or just unwell. It is hard to pinpoint for some people but it is the total load of it all that is scary.
It is quite possible that 5G will break the immune systems of the most vulnerable. This includes babies and young children who have thinner skulls.
Also anyone already ill.
Toxic overload.

I'm absolutely against it. Below are a few links giving much more information than I could convey here.
The second link is rather long but well worth watching.

forbiddenknowledgetv.net/the-5g-dragnet/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The+5G+Dragnet

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLVIbPtNrVo

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2DSKl1ts0w

We've been taking advantage of microwave radiation for nearly 90 years. How long does it take to decide whether or not it is safe? No, I'm not concerned about 5G.

Are you all still driving cars, walking in streets polluted by traffic? The incidence of illness and death including cancer and heart disease caused by everyday pollutants in the air all around us is many many times higher than the supposed damage by mobile homes.

I do not dismiss the need to investigate this matter, but I am more bothered about the risks that surround us and really do kill us or ruin our health. And, yes, I do still drive, but at least I have a sense of where 90% of the risk lies.

A long time ago there was a book called 'Parkinson's' Law where he propounded that the board of a company would argue afternoon about siting the bike shed while agreeing to build a nuclear plant in 10 minutes. yes, the example of the nuclear power station would not arise now. Let me replace it, with a factory making cars.

I am firmly convinced that all the chemicals in our lives are damaging to our health. So many people seem to have allergies, and various 'conditions' compared to years ago. From the moment a baby is born they are in contact with every kind of synthetic imaginable. When I was little, everything was made of wood, cotton, wool - all natural.
Little can be done about it now, though.

Apparently fibre optics could do the job instead of wifi but it's more expensive.
So yet again moeny over health.

Grandad.......this time it is not going to be something everyone uses happily.......you might as well say that traffic pollution is harmless, and it most certainly is not.

I am very concerned. I have read accounts from various doctors and scientists and it does seem to be a very dangerous frequency that is going to be used.

I am unable to use a mobile phone....they give me headaches and I have a friend who following a brain bleed also cannot use one.
We are very worried that 5G will affect our health and also it will affect anyone vulnerable.
Babies and young children are most likely to be affected.

I have read that it will affect insects too like bees.

Also Smart Meters are not safe if you are too close to them.

The main problem is that our bodies are now fighting agaisnt too many toxins.....food, air, water and now wifi and esmog. There will be a tipping point and it will definitely affect those of us who are weaker first.

I don't expect that the main population will be concerned. But all this new tech is very very new....we are all guinea pigs really.

The fact is that very little research has been done by the companies concerned re the harmfulness (or not) of these networks because the research is ongoing - i.e. we're it! I know people who can walk into a house and can tell instantly if their wifi is on or not (a friend gets blinding headaches from them). I suspect that some more sensitive people are the "canary in the coalmines" and are affected severely, but most of us don't notice the effect, nor can pinpoint health problems that are caused by it. I definitely turn off my wifi router at night and then on again in the morning - always sleep with it switched off (I know it doesn't solve the problem - my neighbours probably have theirs on 24/7) but it's all I can do. Whilst companies are making money out of this, and governments are able to make money to by selling network licences, there is no incentive for them to look for problems.

I always think the link to cancer because we're all getting older is a little glib.

Thanks for the link Monica. How interesting that a quick peruse brings up that 'since the 1990s the largest increase in cancer incidence is in the 0-24 age group where rates have increased by 25%.'

Interesting also that cancer rates are highest in the most deprived areas.

So is it children and young people who have been exposed to computers and electronic devices from the womb onwards who are most vulnerable to cancer? It could of course be pollution, pesticides, processed foods, poor diet, etc or even Chernobyl/Fukushima. I remember after Chernobyl it was widely reported that there would be an excess of 25,000 cancer deaths in Europe in 25 years as a result of the accident.

I'm sure there are a multiplicity of causes and a multifactorial context. I don't think that's a reason though to shrug at the arrival of each new technology and assume it's OK. Mainstream science is funded by self interested bodies and change takes a long time to come but often the mavericks are proved to have been right all along. A simple example is the acceptance now of stomach ulcers being linked to H. Pylori and curable by antibiotics. The doctor who discovered that was vilified.

And, do you know, I read a report the other day of scientists working for the petrochemical industry, Exxon in particular I think, who predicted severe climate change as long ago as 1979. The result? The industry ploughed millions into hiding the facts and promoting the industry instead.

I do believe the science that says 5g is harmful. Most people haven't even got 4g and nothing we use needs 5g. The masts for 5g will have to be very close together as it doesn't reach far so everyone would have to be in its range.

My husband, a scientist himself, had a close friend who died of a brain tumour. He had been involved in research and development of the first mobile phones,

He was convinced that this work was the cause of his cancer and had articles about it published in scientific journals. He did say that, as in everything else, moderation was the key and worried about youngsters who as Aepgirl hints, walk about with mobiles clamped to their ears 24/7.

Sorry, Aepgirl, that isn't so. See the link to cancer statistics and research in my posts above.

Totally agree with M0nica - and there are far more pressing things to worry about! Every new technology has people assuming the worst. People have been saying the same things throughout history! What a pity people don't understand a little more about statistics and scientific method.

It’s surely more than coincidence that the number of people contracting cancer has increased so dramatically since the onset of mobile phones. Do I have one? - of course I do, but I don’t have it clamped to my ear 24-7.