Tommy Robinson

I have worked professionally with sex offenders, including paedophiles and I think them vile, but it is for the criminal justice (police, courts & law) system to deal with them.
I agree with Maw, Gonegirl & others that 'Tommy Robinson" is despicable - extremely right-wing, racist, fascist, hate- mongering & self-seeking. Just my view, others are entitled to theirs providing they aren't offensive.

An extended family member (white) targeted and abused my sister and other family members for many years before being brought to justice. It would be a serious mistake to assume that only certain sections of society, religious or otherwise, harbour peadophiles. They can be anywhere. They find ways to get close to children. It seems to me that Mr Robinson is using this as an excuse for his own ends and I object to that. We are all subject to the law.

But he’s not a great man is he? Tommy Robinson doesn’t really exist. He’s Stephen Yaxley Lennon. He’s pretending to be someone he isn’t. He’s using a name to appeal to individuals with far right tendencies who he then manipulates with his hate speech to become facist bigots.

It seems to me that that there are 3 issues. TR is a facist, anti-british racist and a thug, all of which he lieingly denies. He deliberately defied a court order to stir up racial tension, and that has nothing to do with free speech. Finally there is the issue of gangs of men, in the particular case, who claimed to be Muslim but the Muslim community detest, who have carried out repeated abuse of young women in their neighbourhood.

Each of these issue are separate the thing that brings them together is the obnoxious TR who seeks to abuse the victims of sexual abuse to cause public disorder in the name of his justice

I am totally against grooming of any vulnerable person, just as I abhor violence against women, children, men, ill treatment of animals and all of the other acts/ behaviours that you will find are not permitted by law in the UK. I don't care who carries them out , I just want the perpetrators dealt with . This man, by his stupidity, could cause a trial to collapse and the perpetrators could walk free. He has been found to be in contempt of court and deserves what he gets. I don't see why he is above the law, it applies to all of us. If the court decrees that no-one can report on a case then that is it. What is it that is so difficult to understand?

Johno agree with your post regarding Pakistani rapist gangs in UK. The abuse by these people was horrific truly horrific.

This man was found guilty of contempt of court, it had nothing to do with his views or the views of his followers. His actions could have resulted in guilty men going free.

As for his being put in solitary when in prison - do you think that was probably for his own safety? If he had been put in general population I think there would have been a very good chance he would have been attacked.

The government simply has to “ keep a lid” on extreme views right or left because it could easily snowball and cause serious public order problems.
The security services keep a close eye on all extreme groups wether they are Right wing, Religious, animal rights or any other group that may gain momentum.

GillT57 Your comments indicate that you are a supporter of free speech: well yours, anyway. If this site supports your free speech, surely it must support the free speech of others ....

By silencing and jailing him the government has perpetrated a horrific injustice
NannyC, he was in contempt of court - don’t you get what that means?

There are some ugly views being expressed on this site and I am concerned that our “self moderating” ethos is letting some very dubious opinions through. ?

GG13 I don't think the concept of grooming was quite as well recognized then as it now is. Thankfully there is now greater acknowledgement that grooming occurs, and how it influences and draws in vulnerable people of any age.

I'm not sure we are the ones who "need to get a grip and get real"...

It’s always interesting to note the supposedly tolerant ones venting and getting abusive. Gonegirl where do you get off on telling people to F... off? Others saying people with opinions differing from theirs shouldn’t be on here. This is Gransnet not Guardiannet. We can say what we like as long as it’s not abusive. Some of you need to get a grip and get real.

I think this may account for the councillors actions or non-actions

Quote from the trial judge”One of the senior judges, Dame Victoria Sharp, said the court will consider what penalty to impose for the contempt - which carries a maximum penalty of two years - and give full reasons for the decision at a later date.

She said Robinson breached the reporting restriction imposed on the trial by live-streaming a video from outside the public entrance to the court and by "aggressively confronting and filming" some of the defendants.

The judge said the content of the video "gave rise to a substantial risk that the course of justice in that case would be seriously impeded" and the confrontation of the defendants was a direct interference with the course of justice.”
Simple.

EV, I absolutely despair when you bring up Hamza. God help us.

The judge that jailed him immediately after his appearance outside that court was found to be in breach of judicial process. TR was kept in solitary confinement whilst there. Outrageous hypocrisy by the powers that be.

The reason these Pakistani gangs have flourished for so long with impunity is because the police and labour councils are terrified of being accused of racism and in the case of the councils, losing votes from communities with large muslim population. TR has been trying to highlight these and other issues.

I an not a TR supporter by any means but I won’t lambast the man when I agree with a lot of what I, personally, have heard him say.

Suzeiwoozie where is your outrage at these local police and councillors that turned the other way when these young girls were being beaten, drugged and pimped out?

Not only are there apologists for TR on here ( please go away, we don't want your sort), but there are many people pushing his propaganda in USA, reporting him as some sort of hero against the system. It does of course, suit the followers of a particular President who cannot get to grips with London having a Muslim Mayor. TR is not a folk hero, he is a vile, racist who almost scuppered a trial and thus could have let some paedophiles and abusers free, those brave children and women who had testified in the trial would have been put in danger. If you think this is a good thing, then I really do not think that this site is the place for you.

Terrible man but some people seem to love him. I just don't understand how they can't see what he is. A veey dangerous far right person who likes nothing better than stiring up hated. He reminds me of Oswald Moseley. Making out to be a man of the people but promoting hated and intolerance

This has everything to do with freedom of speech Paperbackwriter for which he's been castigated for. Blimey there wasn't as much hoo-ha when Hamza did his preaching in Hyde Park.

What do people (TR apologists) not understand about being in contempt of court?

TR's activities jeopardized the outcome of an ongoing trial. What's not to understand?

FGS!

I seriously cannot for the life of me, believe this site has supporters of that vile man.

It is beyond comprehension.

NannyC2 - he was in contempt of court and publicised details of a trial that almost jeopardised the conviction for crimes that were despicable. It was nothing to do with freedom of speech and all to do with due process. Tommy Robinson knew exactly what he was doing but thought he'd get away with it.

Tommy R is not a 'Great man' Johno nor does he 'tell it like it is' BusterTank - he is self-admitted fascist, complete racist and all-round git who thinks he is above the law. Unless of course you think those attitudes are OK, in which case I don't know what you are doing here. You should be over on another group - EDL or Britain Firs, possibly with the sort of people who support such vile views.

Blimey, there are a few people posting on here today who need to take a good look at themselves. Or have a nice lie down.