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Tommy Robinson

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MawBroonsback Fri 05-Jul-19 18:13:23

The epitome of cocky I was frankly disgusted by his behaviour outside Leeds Crown Court.
He is an obnoxious individual who seems to think he is above the law.
Beneath contempt more like.

joannapiano Mon 08-Jul-19 17:37:42

Our Son in Law is currently having treatment for cancer at Bart’s Hospital. He said that this awful man and his supporters had completely blocked the roads around the hospital last week, the criminal courts are just around the corner. A lot of the patients’ transport was delayed.

EllanVannin Mon 08-Jul-19 17:37:39

If anything I post is misconstrued then it's not my fault, but the fault of those who wish to see something that isn't there !

MaizieD Mon 08-Jul-19 17:37:04

Are you attributing the above comment to me?
If so please show where I have said this.

Had I been attributing the comment to anyone, Joelsnan, I would have italicised it, as I always do (unless I muck up the formatting). I would have thought you'd know that by now, we've exchanged thoughts often enough...

Anger management problems, eh?

hmm

2013 possession of false identity with intention of improper use. 10 months prison.

2013 two counts of mortgage fraud - 10 months jail

Whitewavemark2 Mon 08-Jul-19 17:33:21

ev ??what have you said? I must have a look.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 08-Jul-19 17:32:18

After reading his biography how can anyone even begin to defend his actions?

He’s been banned from you tube, twitter and Facebook, Amazon refuse to sell his self published books because of their incendiary content.

EllanVannin Mon 08-Jul-19 17:30:27

So--------I've been reported AGAIN !! For what ??

I can see far worse than what I wrote about.I'm annoyed !!

Whitewavemark2 Mon 08-Jul-19 17:28:20

joelsnan can I ask. Do you support SYL? Only I can’t quite understand what you are saying?

Blondiescot Mon 08-Jul-19 17:19:22

I can't believe you felt the need to drag Lee Rigby's name into this - Lyn Rigby and her family have repeatedly spoken of their disgust at having their son's horrific murder hijacked by SYL and his "supporters" for their own ends.

Lessismore Mon 08-Jul-19 17:05:48

JN, there was no need to use them. What do they actually mean?

Joelsnan Mon 08-Jul-19 17:00:00

MaizieD
Just a regular sort of guy, really
Are you attributing the above comment to me?
If so please show where I have said this.

You demonstrate perfectly how false information and attributions can, without firm justification be maliciously attached.

Joelsnan Mon 08-Jul-19 16:54:48

Lessismore
I dislike them too...shame they have to be used.

Joelsnan Mon 08-Jul-19 16:53:26

Eloethan
There are politicians current and former with criminal records for perverting the course of justice, fraud, theft, paedophilia just for starters.
I am not minimising TRs record, he obviously has anger management issues to say the least. Just does it warrant the vitriol? Jeopardising the outcome of a grooming gang trial was stupid but was it vile?
I know he does travel the country and stands outside courts where Pakistani grooming gangs are tried and does shout abuse at them, is that vile?
He appears to have friends and acquaintances of other ethnic backgrounds is he a vile racist?

Lessismore Mon 08-Jul-19 16:51:36

Two phrases I dislike " play the race card" and " virtue signaling"

Eloethan Mon 08-Jul-19 16:34:39

joelsnan Your post at 16.08 was unclear. Were you saying the more British MPs have a worse criminal record than Robinson? If so, and having reseached TR's history yourself, do you stand by that?

MaizieD Mon 08-Jul-19 16:33:58

Just a regular sort of guy, really...

Thanks, Joelsnan

Joelsnan Mon 08-Jul-19 16:28:13

‘Tommy Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, 36, is a right-wing political activist from Luton, Bedfordshire.

His mother was an Irish immigrant who worked as a baker while his adoptive father worked at a local Vauxhall car plant.

He told the Telegraph in 2013: "Everyone in Luton is the son of immigrants. Whether it be Irish, West Indian, Ghanaian, everyone I know.”

Despite performing well academically at school, Robinson repeatedly found himself in trouble as a teenager, citing fights with "Muslim gangs" as one of the reasons for his "problems" as a youth.

Robinson is the former leader of the English Defence League (EDL), a far-right street protest movement.

The group – which the former British National Party (BNP) member co-founded in 2009 – are opposed to the spread of “militant Islam”.

He also has a criminal record with convictions for a number of offences, including football-related violence, trying to travel on false documents and a protest against Fifa’s decision to stop the England football team wearing poppies on their shirts.

He has been to prison on multiple occasions including in 2014 for mortgage fraud.

After studying aircraft engineering for five years, Robinson lost his job at Luton Airport in 2003 after punching an off-duty police officer during a drunken row’.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 08-Jul-19 16:17:31

Ok

Let’s look at his total criminal record.

2005 assault - 12 months

2011 threatening, abusive and insulting behaviour. - 12 months rehab. 150 hours labour

2011 common assault- 12 months jail susp. 12 months.

2013 possession of false identity with intention of improper use. 10 months prison.

2013 two counts of mortgage fraud - 10 months jail

2017- contempt - 3 months susp. 18 months

I can if you wish go into greater detail. Things like his various racist comments etc. But I’m not sure regurgitating foul racist comments gets us anywhere.

Joelsnan Mon 08-Jul-19 16:08:49

WWM2
His jail sentences were for mortgage fraud, assault, and using false travel documents
Gosh!
There are probably more MPs with criminal records more sworded than this.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 08-Jul-19 16:07:27

Just a note to say that there is masses of information about SYL, so if you are unsure you will be after reading that.

One of the worse members of society. Or the best if you are racist to your core.

Joelsnan Mon 08-Jul-19 16:01:47

Gonegirl
I'm actually astounded that GNHQ are allowing far right supporters to air their views on here. I know it all comes down to the "forum rules", but thinking outside the box for once might not be a bad idea

Are the ‘far righters’ those who you consider to have a different perspective to you and therefore you want them silenced. There is a term for that.

There is not one post on this thread that could be construed as far right, (that is if you really understand the term). However there are some posts here that could be attributed to an ideology that suppresses free speech and debate.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 08-Jul-19 15:59:48

OK
Tommy Robinson real name Steven Yaxley Lennon but has in fact used numerous pseudonyms.

British far right anti Islam activist. Previous member of the BNP and BFP. Is an active member of Pegida, another anti Islam organisation.

He has numerous criminal records and has served 3 jail sentences, these Clyde violence, financial fraud, immigration fraud, drug possession, public order offences and contempt.
His jail sentences were for mortgage fraud, assault, and using false travel documents.

He is awaiting sentence for his latest contempt case.

An all round good egg I should say???

Eloethan Mon 08-Jul-19 15:58:39

Perhaps in some ways it's good that people like Johno can express their views on social network sites. Then they can't present themselves as "gagged" victims of some sort of liberal conspiracy, and people can read their views and, hopefully, decide that they are irrational, divisive and hate-filled.

Eloethan Mon 08-Jul-19 15:53:04

A business man I know referred to a part of London where he owned a business as "the Khyber Pass" because of its large Asian population, and went on to make what I considered to be some offensive comments about Asians. I pointed out that since his business depended on them, it seemed that, despite his feelings about Asians, he wasn't averse to taking their money; moreover I considered his comments to be racist. He was adamant that he was not a racist.

This is the thing. It is not for white people living in a predominantly white country to state with confidence that there is very little racism here now. It may well be true that overt (or deliberate) racism is not as prevalent as it was in the 50's and 60's but I think it is probably inappropriate for white people to make assumptions as to the degree of racism experienced because they would not have first hand experience of it. And, whilst this man did not think his comments were racist, many non-white people would think they were.

I fully expect now some posters to come on Gransnet saying that their friend of Indian/Jamaican/African/Chinese origin has never experienced racism and thinks it's all a lot of fuss about nothing. It is often easier for non-white people not to rock the boat and to overlook insensitive or unkind comments so as to avoid people saying you "have a chip" on your shoulder or you are just "looking for trouble".

In any event, Tommy Robinson is one person that I can say with confidence is an out and out racist and a nasty piece of work.

Joelsnan Mon 08-Jul-19 15:52:39

suziwoozie
He is also being sued by the Syrian schoolboy in Huddersfield who he falsely accused of assault on others as a way of blaming the boy for being bullied and attacked (by a white boy of course). He put the Syrian boy in more danger of further attacks. How anyone with a grain of humanity can support or defend this ‘man’ is just beyond me. He is the epitome of obnoxiousness

The case has not been heard yet therefore your assumption that it was a false accusation cannot be made. The information that was repeated by TR must have come from somewhere whether truth or lies.

Also, (by a white boy of course)...is no other boy capable of aggression? Would you show the same rage if the boy perpetrating the aggression (which was vile) was black os say Chinese? do hope so.

Joelsnan Mon 08-Jul-19 15:38:25

Barnet
Please show where I have said I support him?
I and probably the majority of those posting on this thread have no direct knowledge of him or his true objective. Before I form an opinion I would need to look way back at what inspired him and whether his prejudices are genuine or not before I started following or slagging him. I think there are very few on this thread who have truly done that.
Please do not attribute any allegiances to me until and unless you actually know me.
Those of you who still consider yourselves virtue warriors should back up your claims with irrefutable evidence rather than abuse and swear words it does little to confirm your case.