I despise Yaxley Lennon

Johnson and Farage have done much to normalised the social atmosphere which allows other to make such attacks on a religion or race in a way which has not been the case since the last war. That they have done this merely to garner votes does put them in the same category as those whose hatred the aid and abet.

Yaxley-Lennon is a brain dead racist. I find it more frightening that those who are old enough and claim to have a modicum of intelligence should even begin to defend him.

GGMk3; I was only thinking tonight [having just finished rewatching Years and Years] how frightening it is that we now accept things that a few years ago would have shocked us.

Interesting twitter thread here. Seems that some EDL members were keen on a bit of rape and paedophilia. Seems it's fine by Y-L, alias TR, if white lads are doing it...

mobile.twitter.com/camcamdamn/status/1149311833091780609

Yaxley- Lennon supporters demonstrated at the Old Bailey and then went on to run riot and threaten violence against the anti Brexit supporters at Parliament Square, arrests were made, say no more.

You're braver than me Labaik, watching it again. It's far too close to our own possible outcomes although very well done. Perhaps when, if, this is all over.

My whole family have been watching it GG. Unusual for all of us [DD and my ex] to be watching and raving about the same programme. We're also, as a family, joining the LibDems...

I didn’t watch it (Years and Years) as we were away for part of it. A small précis would be helpful if anyone feels like it.

It was well done and relied a great deal on Anne Reid I felt. If you were in a low mood , it could really get to you. I have been pondering this, as nearly all " entertainment" is devoid of optimism and hope. Maybe it's intentional.

Oh dear, maybe it’s better that I didn’t see it then.

maddyone watch it and weep. Excellent series, well written, great cast.

I will Gill, I will.

A precis is impossible; the reason I'm rewatching it is because it's very much 'blink and you'll miss something important'. However, after giving up on it first time round because it upset me so much, rewatching actually gave me an optimism that good will always win over bad and we need to have faith in the younger generation that will have to sort out all this mess we're creating. Also, I've come to [in a strange sort of way] love the family. Ann Reid was superb but so were they all; even down to sweet little Lincoln. And there is humour in it, with very cleverly timed one liners thrown in. Supposedly the writer has wanted to do a series of this kind for 20 years but I do wonder what he would have written 20 years ago. As well as Cold Lazarus it somehow makes me think of Heimat; something else I'd like to rewatch.

Labiak is right. It follows a family and there different reactions to a possible future. It is very nuanced. I would not agree with Lessismore; I certainly didn't see it as "devoid of optimism and hope". Much of any optimism came from the family dynamics. Each family member held very different views but they managed to keep their family ties. We saw heroism, cowardice, self-sacrifice and self serving against a background of progress and regression. I must admit I felt it could have been longer - to play out the passage of time in more depth. It was a dystopian "future", but only some members of the family allowed it to dehumanise them. Just as in an country under occupation some rose above the new order, some sank beneath it, and some just struggled to survive.

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I despise the Asian gangs who raped young vulnerable girls, & the police and other authorities who turned a blind eye for fear of being called racist.

We need people like Tommy Robinson to expose these disgusting scandals.

I hope, Kandinski, that you despise the EDL followers, such as those listed on the twitter thread I posted, who do do just the same thing? With children...n

The Life Sentence for murder is mandatory. The judge has no choice. The life sentence does not mean time in prison it means a sentence by the courts which restricts your freedom and therefore the life sentence is just that... part in prison and the rest of your life on licence - which is a sentence by the court because your right to free movement is limited and is imposed by the state. It therefore follows, if you are released for a murder you did not commit and this is accepted you are NOT on the licence because the licence part is the life sentence. It is dependent upon whether being released was a parole board decision or court of appeal.

GROWSTUFF - I defend him 100%. You will never show any evidence he is racist, not any. So I find it bizarre that people who belong to the senior end in age group wish to impugn a man without any evidence.

Yaxley-Lennon has successfully hoodwinked you Johno. He is no fighter for justice and owes the victims of the grooming gangs an apology. Without the swift reaction of the police he could have over-turned the successful prosecution of these men by flouting the reporting restrictions that were in place.

He does this sort of thing merely to enhance his notoriety and entrap those who don't even realise how racist they are. He is a criminal. If you read the list in the tweet linked by Maizie he is a comrade of paedophiles. He is a vile human being and prison is exactly the right place for him and, no doubt, for some of his followers. It sounds to me as if you have no real thought for the real victims just a wish to join in the prejudice and discrimination of one particular group.

Prison is the right place for him "and no doubt for some of his followers"?? I dont care what you think of me. I do not seek approval. I also NEVER personally insult the writer of a thread/post on the internet. TommY Robinson is a great man. He has my full support. I am a former Police officer - Crown Court Clerk and a Manager of life sentence prisoners formerly Home Office MOJ. I have also sat on hundred of Parole Board hearings re Life sentence prisoners.

Johno I beg to differ with your " life sentence " . When you throw a politician into the mix who goes against what the judge ordered it's the say of the politician that wins the day and not the judge's ruling. I can prove that.

We need people like Tommy Robinson to expose these disgusting scandals

No we don't. We need a properly funded, professional ,police force and a change in attitude.

Nobody " needs" him or his side kicks.

I am surprised to read this tbh.

Thank you GG for the information re tv programme (we all went somewhat off thread there didn’t we) but can you explain further please Ellan asim not sure I understand what you’ve just said re the politician.

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