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I despise Yaxley Lennon

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Lessismore Sat 06-Jul-19 15:26:13

and all he stands for. I seriously cannot believe there are genuine people on this forum who appear to think otherwise.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 11-Jul-19 14:12:28

joelsnan you speak of him as if he is a rational law abiding individual without a violent bone in his body.

EllanVannin Thu 11-Jul-19 14:08:34

I at least have the ability to remain open-minded about all this instead of joining the ranks of the otherwise fanatical-induced views of others.

Joelsnan Thu 11-Jul-19 14:03:17

Where are the vile comments relating to those standing outside schools intimidating staff who are trying to teach that there are more than one facet to humanity.
Does YL and his cohorts do anything more intimidatory?

Do those who consider him vile do so because he has tried to publicise grooming?
Is it because he does not condone Halal slaughter and this meat presented in schools?
Is it because he is intolerant of forced marriage?
Is it because of ritual slaughter (Eid al Adha)
Is it because of the application of Sharia law within a specific community?
Is it because of ritual circumcision?
Is it because of some extreme views which sees non believers as ‘kafir’ and therefore unworthy of life?

Do you consider that these cultural and religious differences are part of what comprise a certain community and are therefore should just be regarded as cultural differences of no significance. Obviously YL finds the above concerning, enough for him to try and bring his (and others) concerns to the media arena. If his concerns are irrelevant to you or the fear of dealing with them is so great then of course you shoot the messenger.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 11-Jul-19 14:00:28

He’s got 9 months I think.

suziewoozie Thu 11-Jul-19 13:56:11

I have to say quizqueen and Firecracker that your lack of understanding of the law of contempt and the dangers of TR’s behaviour to the victims getting justice leaves me truly amazed.

Firecracker123 Thu 11-Jul-19 13:41:33

quizqueen I agree double standards I think.

quizqueen Thu 11-Jul-19 13:33:11

How can the bringing to the attention of the public the fact that young girls have been groomed and raped by certain sections of our society and that the police did nothing for years be a bad thing. There are two lots of people who should be in prison for this crime- the rapists and some of the police, not Tommy Robinson.

GracesGranMK3 Thu 11-Jul-19 13:05:56

Let me help with this EDL question. It is a single issue movement which targets Islam and, as a consequence, Muslims. It was founded in 2009 as a coalescence of several football hooligan firms protesting against the public appearance of a small Salafi Muslim group in Luton. It follows in the footsteps of the previous "Paki-bashing" groups of the far right. It has a strong presence on line but started to decline around 2011.

Ideological, the EDL has little clarity, with no specific goals, policies or manifesto.

EllanVannin Thu 11-Jul-19 12:46:23

It takes longer than 9 months to get a charge overturned even if there's proof of a MOJ once a case has been to the CPS and finally the CCRC ( the " not fit for purpose " organisation )

WadesNan Thu 11-Jul-19 12:38:45

LadyGracie "It’s a joke, you could get a lesser sentence for committing murder!" Really - please supply evidence of where a convicted murderer received a sentence of less than 9 months

LadyGracie Thu 11-Jul-19 12:35:49

No he’s been sentenced to 9 months. If he’s out in 10 weeks that’s one of the many faults in our ‘cocked up’ judicial system!

EllanVannin Thu 11-Jul-19 12:30:04

LadyGracie, a lesser sentence than 10 weeks for committing a murder ??

LadyGracie Thu 11-Jul-19 12:19:40

It’s a joke, you could get a lesser sentence for committing murder!

EllanVannin Thu 11-Jul-19 11:51:32

10 weeks on licence.
Eddie Gilfoyle was released on licence 9 years ago after serving a sentence of 18 years for a murder he didn't commit. That licence has never been lifted to this day.

I await the outcome of TR's licence status after 10 weeks.

Urmstongran Thu 11-Jul-19 11:40:42

9 month jail sentence handed down today at Leeds Crown Court. Good.

Apparently he will be out in 10 weeks though.
?

Oldwoman70 Sun 07-Jul-19 09:33:59

I see Johno hasn't responded to the various requests to inform us as to why the EDL was formed - I actually do know but I am now wondering if he does

Cherrytree59 Sun 07-Jul-19 08:40:22

Johno why the DPRK statemen???

Oldwoman70 Sun 07-Jul-19 07:31:40

Johno you keep asking if we know why the EDL was formed, why not tell us?

Johno Sun 07-Jul-19 06:59:27

Blinko - you think I don't "think things through"? I can assure you I have thoroughly scrutinised every single action to do with Yaxley-Lennon, from day one up to today. So tell me why the EDL was formed? Tell me why the BBC did what Y-L did and no action was taken? Tell me why hundreds of people, a violent mob, attacked Y-L and peaceful supporters during a lawful election campaign and were literally ASSISTED by the police. Its on video. They threw rocks and scissors and would while the police stood and watched and actually assisted them. Do you think that is OK?

Johno Sun 07-Jul-19 06:53:28

So - are you actually saying that people who choose to support a man who put the serious criminal offences - thousands of rapes and torture of young white girls - in the public domain ate NOT CIVILISED??? So you think I am uncivilised, a man you have never met and know nothing about. Can you not see the "hate speech" you are spouting?? This is laughable. I do NOT consider you "uncivilised" yet I easily could because of what you say about me. . . a man you know nothing about. Tell me why the EDL was started... I bet you can not?

Johno Sun 07-Jul-19 06:47:04

He did nothing more than what the BBC was doing outside the court. I know exactly what contempt of court is. But look how personal you people are? You are actually personally attacking others for expressing the view that they support Tommy. I do support him and I do NOT attack people who do not support him, I will challenge the supposed "facts" they cite but that is not a personal insult.

Johno Sun 07-Jul-19 06:43:07

Tommy is brilliant. The common trend with people who despise him is that they never say why and can never back up the reasons why with evidence. Ok we are free to dislike whomever we choose but it seems odd to have such hatred for a person and then I suppose go on to cite how we must all stop HATE SPEECH. I bet you dont even know how/why the EDL was started?

eazybee Sat 06-Jul-19 17:44:23

Goodness me.(Previous thread)

I would bet a pound to a penny that the vast majority of Yaxley-Lennon supporters voted to leave (although not all leave voters are YL supporters)
Unnecessary comment, GracesGran.

Lessismore Sat 06-Jul-19 16:33:58

Yes, of course they exist. It still comes as a shock to me that people feel able to come out with this vile stuff. I naively thought this site was inhabited by civilised people.

GracesGranMK3 Sat 06-Jul-19 16:26:18

I am stunned by some of the comments on the other thread. (Sat 06-Jul-19 15:37:44)

There is not much point in being "stunned" Lessismore these people and their way of both looking at things and speaking about them exist. I have seen much worse elsewhere. I would bet a pound to a penny that the vast majority of Yaxley-Lennon supporters voted to leave (although not all leave voters are YL supporters).

They do have a right to their view but they do not have a right to break the law.