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Labour Party reportedly using ' gagging orders.

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Grandad1943 Thu 11-Jul-19 09:45:19

Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDA's) are widely used throughout almost all Companies and other organisations in the UK. They were brought in as a response to the introduction of the "Data Protection Act 1998" and protect all British citizens from organisations or individual personnel in those organisations from inappropriate use of data collected. The Conservative Party requires that their employees sign such documents which in their case are entitled "confidentiality agreements".

Since the introduction of the above act NDA's have gradually become more specific and strict over the years due to Amendments made to the
Data Protection Act and the foregoing being completely redrafted and brought forward to Parliament as a new act in 2018.

However, the above agreements do not restrict " whistleblowers" from disclosing information that would demonstrate that the organisation they work for is infringing Health & Safety legislation or any situation covered under the Equalities Act 2010 as that protection is contained within the Data Protection Act.

I have not been able to see the Panorama program on the Labour party, but if stress is occurring within the staff dealing with anti-semitism complaints, then to me that would indicate that better training of those dealing with that matter is required, and perhaps limiting the time that employees spend daily/weekly on that matter.

Within our own business staff can suffer stress when dealing with persons who have incurred severe injury in their workplace, or those that are in the process of receiving disciplinary action from their employers for infringement of Health & Safety regulations. In the above situations, the careful selection and monitoring of staff is essential, and to rotate employees dealing with such cases is at times required.

However, in Britain at the present time, there is often a severe shortage of Qualified persons to deal with such matters as the above, and therefore recruitment can be a major problem

In the case of the Labour Party I feel that recruiting persons well versed in handling matters encompassed within the Equalities Act would be essential in dealing with anti-semitism cases, and finding people within that limited group who would have the "right mental attitude" for such work is I would believe quite frankly "a nightmare".

It cannot help when people such as Margret Hodge (her of the covert recording fame) forwards over two hundred unchecked anti-semitism allegations to central office for them to check out and investigate.

lemongrove Thu 11-Jul-19 08:56:57

I watched this too Iam and found it quite shocking, the team leading the antisemitic complaints were constantly harrassed, bullied and lead ( when they should have kept out of it ) by Corbyn’s Office.
It seems that Milne and Co were only interested in damping
Down the complaints and not dealing with the perps.Not only that but actively interfering.
The responses from the Leaders Office reminded me of those politburo responses during the Chernobyl crisis !

Iam64 Thu 11-Jul-19 08:05:57

I watched the Panorama programme last night. The issue of NDA's is relevant to that, as the people who'd worked in the department investigating complaints had all signed NDA's.

I was shocked that such a high proportion of one staff group had experienced work related stress, anxiety, depression, to the extent they'd had to seek help from the doctor. Any employer with such high numbers of staff suffering diagnosable mental health problems as a result of work related stress, needs to be looking at its staff care policies. Why did these people become ill?

Anniebach Wed 10-Jul-19 12:15:10

I truly despair, how a party can be so devious and am baffled
how it can be defended,

POGS Wed 10-Jul-19 12:08:05

Well Labour MP Wes Streeting on Politics Live spoke for many re the use of NDA's and the handling of those staff members who have been reminded of their signing them.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45640548

Jeremy Corbyn: Labour will outlaw NDAs that prevent discrimination being revealed.

“Jeremy Corbyn will commit the next Labour government to:

Legislating to prevent making any contractual clauses (NDAs) which stop disclosure of future discrimination, harassment or victimisation”

That’s from a Labour party press release trailing a “package of workplace policies for hospitality workers” on 10 June 2018.

Shadow business secretary, Rebecca Long-Bailey, reiterated the commitment in a tweet that day. Mr Corbyn made the announcement himself in a speech to the Bakers’ Union Conference in Southport three days later
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Is whistle blowing on antisemitism regarded as worthy of 'reminding' the whistle blower their Non Disclosure Agreement, it appears so.

As Streeting said ' Something is wrotten in the state of Denmark.

Anniebach Mon 08-Jul-19 18:43:49

Corbyn will stop NDA’s, but not for his party, he is an honourable man, we are told

Urmstongran Mon 08-Jul-19 18:43:07

Which is presumably why Kate Hoey is standing down soon.

Urmstongran Mon 08-Jul-19 18:42:19

Seems over 80% of the PLP declared that they had - and presumably still have - no confidence in Corbyn. But there is a plan to address that: purges at constituency level of all candidates who fail to demonstrate their ideological correctness and sign loyalty oaths to the Leader.

M0nica Mon 08-Jul-19 18:27:10

*Privacy clause'? like those Harvey Weinstein, various NHS hospitals, and footballers playing away used to keep private their misdemeanors. What excellent company the Labour Party keeps. Completely stymies them when they next want to make a fuss about government, government agencies or organisations like the BBC not revealing information.

The Labour party's capacity for double think never fails to amaze me. First they elect a leader who consistently voted against his own party 400 times plus before becoming leader then they threaten, and have deselected Labour MPs that do not toe a very narrow party line and now they are using the very gagging orders they have themselves complained about when used by NHS trusts.

They will soon be telling us that black is white, pigs fly and the world is flat and be deselecting MPs that disagree and making them sign gagging orders if they complain.

When it comes to hypocrisy and double thinking there is nothing to beat a good left winger.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 08-Jul-19 18:09:49

Andrew Marr questioned John McDonnell about this on his show yesterday. He said it is common practice to sign a contract which included a “privacy clause”

POGS Mon 08-Jul-19 18:03:55

To be fair the use of NDA's/ Non Disclosure Agreements, commonly known as ' gagging orders' may be used by ALL political parties but it is Labour who are reportedly using them.

NDA's/gagging orders are used for a wide range of issues but this is predominantly to stop staff members from whistle blowing / going public.

The hypocrisy is astounding.

John McDonnell on BBC:-
“What we’re trying to do is remind [ex-employees] of their confidentiality agreement”.
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Jeremy Corbyn:-

Jeremy Corbyn will commit the next Labour government to:
"Legislating to prevent making any contractual clauses (NDAs) which stop disclosure of future discrimination, harassment or victimisation”
--

Labour Shadow equalities secretary Dawn Butler:-
" NDAs should never be used to suppress allegations of criminal behaviour. If the current law doesn’t protect the voices of survivors, the next Labour government will legislate to do so”
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" Labour Shadow Equalities Minister Dawn Butler:-
Labour welcomes the EHRC’s recommendations to protect employees from sexual harassment at work. Its call for the Government to prevent employers from using non-disclosure agreements is essential to ensuring greater transparency and access to justice”
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www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-labour-contradict-themselves-on-non-disclosure-agreements

The issue of Labour using NDA's/ gagging orders is certainly cause to ask as what lies behind the need for them, how many have been signed and more to the point were any staff member frightened not to sign them.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/07/labour-in-fresh-antisemitism-row-over-use-of-ndas-against-staff-whistleblowers

Charlie Falconer, the Labour former lord chancellor, said it would be “deeply wrong” and hypocritical for the party to “campaign against NDAs but use them to prevent embarrassment to Labour”.

The Labour MP Wes Streeting also criticised the party for using NDAs in this way, and offered to use parliamentary privilege to disclose information on behalf of any whistleblower who felt they were being silenced.