Dominic Grieve attempt to block Johnson's ability to prorogue Parliment

You trust your Government to close down and prorogue our Parliament? How does that make sense, politically or otherwise.

The vote to stop Johnson from proroguing has been won but just 1 vote.

Well done those Tories, putting country before party.

?whoops that was believing a headline in the Sun. I should have known better.

Wow!

Robert Peston
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Big moment. Former prime minister Sir John Major, knight of the garter, would go to court to stop
@BorisJohnson
“bypassing parliament” to force through no-deal Brexit by proroguing parliament. This is blue-on-blue turbocharged, as
@Jeremy_Hunt
might say.

I’m still unclear about that 1 vote so will try to get it sorted.

Sterling was MUCH lower against the euro in May 2009 when we went to Fuerteventura for a holiday jura2 that’s why I don’t worry. It was £1 = €0.99 (yep, 99 cents to each pound sterling). I recall changing some money at the hotel reception and they very kindly ‘rounded it up’ to 1 Euro for each pound!

Obviously not the best way to exchange money but we’d run out of euros - outside the hotel the exchange rate was still only at £1 for €1.23

Let’s not panic yet.
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2009 that was something to do with the Bankers fiasco ug

This is to do with Brexit.

Recession is being whispered. A no deal brexit will undoubtedly trigger a sterling sell off. The negative news is stacking up, and traders are reacting.

Indeed- and btw, not all of us exchange with the Euro either!

Heard John Major this morning. It left me feeling so sad for our country.

I wasn't panicking UG. I am well past that simply because of the version of the Tory party that is in power and, it seems with glee, destroying our country.

Same here - OH said again ' we will be poor, but there is NO way I am going back to this'.

Sterling is 1.24 today, it was 2.50 when we bought the house here in 2008 - so lost 50% of income, so far...

Here it is
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48930417

Didn't John Major try to prorogue parliament in 1997 all to do with the "Cash for Questions" scandal?

GrannyGravy13 -yes, John Major did prorogue parliament in 1997.

Thank you Nico97, I thought I remembered it, but when you check on line it is difficult to sort out "fake" and real reports.

Ah but you will have bought your house using the ‘commercial’ rate of exchange jura2 which is of course higher than the ‘tourist’ exchange rate.

When we bought our little apartment in Malaga the rate was €1.49 in 2004.

Just saying.
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Trouble brewing in Switzerland now between them & the EU. This from the BBC news website:

“The European Union and Switzerland have imposed new restrictions that affect each other's financial firms.
It is a striking deterioration in what has long been a close economic relationship.

What are the new restrictions?
Investment firms in the EU are no longer allowed to trade on the Swiss stock exchange. The arrangement, known as "equivalence", which previously allowed them to do that lapsed at the end of June and the European Commission has decided not to renew it, for now at least.

In response to the EU's move, Switzerland has banned the trading of Swiss shares on EU markets.

Why did the EU take this action?
This is part of a wider issue between the two sides.
Switzerland's economic relations with the EU are governed by about 120 separate bilateral agreements. These give Swiss businesses access to most of the EU's single market.

What are Switzerland's reservations?
The Swiss government has concerns that the agreement might lead to EU citizens receiving more welfare benefits.
They also fear that it might limit government subsidies to businesses and make it harder to protect Swiss wages - which are high - from low wage competition.”

Well, welcome to our world Switzerland!!

Yes John Major is a hypocrite.

Sneaky old Major himself prorogued Parliament suspiciously early during the final days of his administration, in order to avoid the inevitable Commons ruckus over the publication of Downey's Cash For Questions report.

His excuse was that it was time for the general election. It was, but it's no coincidence that he blew the whistle on March 17th, allowing for an extraordinarily long election campaign. The sly old bugger.

Blimey you can hardly compare the two. That is ridiculous.

I think you can!! Ok in one situation, but not in another?!! How can that possibly be correct? The rules must apply in all circumstances!

You can't pick and choose what is approved of and what isn't!!

But JMs position was entirely different to what is facing us.

He had a majority government, went for a vote of no confidence and won, he prorogued parliament to delay a cash for questions report. Absolutely nothing to do with trying to prevent parliament from voting for something he didn’t agree with.

This prime minister, will possibly attempt to prorogue parliament to stop MPs from exercising their democratic right.

It is so serious as to be an emergency.

The Queen will be dragged into the whole debacle and if it all goes pear shaped will be implicated in the disaster.

It is quite dreadful

It has been an emergency since parliament has taken it upon itself to prevent the democratic wish of a majority to leave the EU.

It could be argued that it was never going to be desirable or possible to vote to seriously degrade the uks economy.

It is only the seriously deluded who are arguing for a no deal.