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Whitewavemark2 Thu 18-Jul-19 16:33:05

I can imagine we will be horror struck as next week plays out. The cabinet will be a sight to behold.

Urmstongran Fri 26-Jul-19 22:43:20

jura2 you are mixing me up with lemongrove tonight.
She was born in 1975.
I was born in 1954.
Our eldest daughter was born in 1977.
My age is very similar to yours.

Thank you for the apology though.
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jura2 Fri 26-Jul-19 22:42:29

btw, I have old fashioned scales, with a full set of Imperial and Metric weights - and my cookery books are in both. My initital Be-Ro book was fully Imperial, second one has both. Good for ze little grey cells.

jura2 Fri 26-Jul-19 22:40:33

'That was a bit harsh jura2 in my opinion.' well it was tongue and cheek and in jest- and also in shock at the thought you are the same age as my youngest daughter.

But if it caused offense, I do apologise.

Re or new- learning is not always easy - took me my fist 6 months in the UK to not only learn a new language, and about Imperial measures, shillings and pence, in 1970... and when I came back 1 year later- had to forget it all. Take 2 driving licences driving on right with LH vehicle, then all over again t'other way round. It certainly did NOT take me nearly 50 years, and maths never been my strong point.

Urmstongran Fri 26-Jul-19 22:28:31

My comment was about us grannies, growmore
Of course all our grandchildren only know their heights in metric.
It was ‘our’ generation that got taught Imperial then had to relearn.
Kids today have grown up only knowing metric.

Which was kind of my point.... grannies are often more au fait knowing a baby’s weight in old money.
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Lessismore Fri 26-Jul-19 22:21:44

not a snowflake or a fan of the tophatted toff but I always do Imperial.

I have no idea about metres and I always convert kilos back to lbs.

growstuff Fri 26-Jul-19 22:17:08

It bemuses me how many snowflakes there are on this site.

growstuff Fri 26-Jul-19 22:16:19

I was told the weight of my babies (both born in the 1990s) in kilos. I don't even know their weight in lb oz. They certainly don't even know their height in any other than metres and centimetres. JRM knows people will see him as somehow erudite and respecting British values. More fool them rather than him (he knows what he's doing).

Nandalot Fri 26-Jul-19 22:11:17

But the young people here now all think in metric. My DGC are aware there is such things as feet and inches but would not be able to use them. Why should they go back to something that is not mathematically logical? Absolute nonsense from JRM.

Boosgran Fri 26-Jul-19 22:10:58

No you certainly are not the only grandma to be told birth weight the ‘old way’ Urmstongran. Both mine were reported in pounds and ounces. Nothing wrong with that at all!

jura2 do you have to be quite so nasty?

Urmstongran Fri 26-Jul-19 22:00:22

That was a bit harsh jura2 in my opinion.

I truly don’t think I’m ‘old Auntie Urmston’ - I bet nearly everyone gets told the converted weight.

Unless you grew up in Europe of course and learnt metric straight off at infant school.

We didn’t over here, of course.

Our ways must seem quaint by comparison.

jura2 Fri 26-Jul-19 21:56:29

calculator and flabbergasted - must be careful. Big brother is watching ;)

jura2 Fri 26-Jul-19 21:54:29

Went to a material shop in 1973- and wanted to buy 1m50 of seersucker. The price was on the roll per metre - it took the shopping assistant about 10 minutes to convert my 1m50 and then the price - I just could not believe my eyes.

Mind you, I bought a simple watch in Switzerland not long ago- 50% off - and it was 90 francs. The young girl had to use a claculator to work the price out - flabberghasted- and maths is not my forte either.

Remember the fab days in the mid 70s when they sold carpet with the price given per square yards, sold in 2m or 4 m width by the linear foot. What (non-sensical) fun!

Minniemoo Fri 26-Jul-19 21:52:05

My daughter and daughter in law were told in pounds the weight of their babies. My grandchildren are between the ages of 10 and 2. NHS maternity ward. To be honest I was expecting to hear it in kilos but no, they used pounds.

jura2 Fri 26-Jul-19 21:49:51

I can just imagine the scenario - oh we must announce the birth to old Auntie Urmston- get the calculator out ahahaha

Urmstongran Fri 26-Jul-19 21:46:04

I didn’t say THEY didn’t jura2

The parents must do the conversions - which is why I never get told ‘baby weighed 3.2kgs (or whatever).

Surely I’m not the only grandma on here who got told about their new family members birth weight ‘the old way’!
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jura2 Fri 26-Jul-19 21:28:21

Where? Hospitals and GPs, midwives, etc, only use metric and have done so for a VERY long time.

Urmstongran Fri 26-Jul-19 21:16:26

All the babies I get told of have their weights in pounds and ounces. Good job - I wouldn’t know otherwise whether they were tiny or hefty!

Lessismore Fri 26-Jul-19 20:56:10

sorry jura, I am imperial through and through. I always convert back.

varian Fri 26-Jul-19 20:55:27

Old boys whose education included a lot of Latin and Ancient Greek may have missed out on some basic numeracy.

Callistemon Fri 26-Jul-19 20:43:43

It is only 44 years, not 50 jura - give us a chance!!

Callistemon Fri 26-Jul-19 20:42:54

Obviously Jacob has not got to grips with it yet.
I think that State schools were obliged to teach the metric system after 1974 but I'm not sure about Eton.

Apparently he is 1.88m tall - I wonder if he knows that?

jura2 Fri 26-Jul-19 20:37:43

Right, I'll say this and then retreat- but apart from those with true disabilities, anyone who has not got to grips with the metric system - after more than 50 years - must be pretty 'challenged'.

Both Metric anc Imperial have their strong points - but if you want to export parts and goods to the EU and other countries with metric system- you have to stick to it. Mixing the two will cost massive amounts of money in adaptation equipment and time back and forth- at a time when things are going to be difficult enough.

And here is a word about Boris, from someone with a lot of experience

www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/1190237111164730/

varian Fri 26-Jul-19 20:35:18

To stop no-deal, Tory MPs must be ready to bring down Boris Johnson

The pound is wilting at the prospect of crashing out with no deal. Steering a course out of this mess requires an extraordinarily deft political touch. Yet the Tories have gambled, choosing a populist leader who is nobody’s idea of a safe pair of hands.

Mr Johnson, who wrote a biography of Winston Churchill and longs for others to see him in that mould, resembles his hero in the sense that he has inherited Britain’s worst crisis since the second world war (see article). Brexit, and a no-deal exit in particular, promises to hurt the economy and leave the country diplomatically isolated in a world where its interests are under threat, as they are right now in the Strait of Hormuz. The risk is existential for the United Kingdom, as Brexit wrenches at the bonds with Scotland and Northern Ireland.

www.economist.com/leaders/2019/07/27/to-stop-no-deal-tory-mps-must-be-ready-to-bring-down-boris-johnson

Callistemon Fri 26-Jul-19 20:33:56

Oh! Can we go back to Imperial measurements now and post-Brexit?
Will we have pounds, shillings and pence?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 26-Jul-19 20:30:32

I see Mogg is insisting that his civil service staff use imperial measurements. Dear oh dear Little Englander personified.