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Whitewavemark2 Thu 18-Jul-19 16:33:05

I can imagine we will be horror struck as next week plays out. The cabinet will be a sight to behold.

lemongrove Fri 26-Jul-19 08:46:03

Labaik that is very old news, and wasn’t ‘last week’ as you purport to show but some time ago.
Yes, it was a stupid thing to say, especially as everything he says get reported, something he will have to learn quickly as there is nothing he can now say, even privately that won’t leak out.

Lessismore Fri 26-Jul-19 08:45:03

So a counter argument to the awful words spoken by BJ, is the Duke of Edinburgh says the same/worse, so it's ok.

Firecracker123 Fri 26-Jul-19 08:43:41

I believe in democracy respecting the EU referendum vote.

What I don't like are the idiots outside the Houses of Parliament but obviously you do, well takes all sorts.
Perhaps you are one of Steve Brays supporters seems he has a few on here.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 26-Jul-19 08:35:16

As an aside did anyone hear Mark Francois on newsnight last night use the phrase “ Herr Juncker in his bunker”?

I despair at the level of language. It is in the gutter.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 26-Jul-19 08:04:31

Greater detail of Johnson’s statement.

Immigration
It is unclear what Johnson’s reforms mid mean, apart from a change to incoming EU migrants. Labour introduced a points system on 2008. Eligibility set by mandatory standards.

Education
School funding has hugely damaged the Tories, and was a big factor in the vote loss of 2017. Johnson has promised to increase the funding to previous levels. IFS estimate this will cost £4.6bn

GM foods

Not grown commercially in GB. No fresh veg/fruit approved for human consumption.
It is a strange strategy for Johnson to choose as 41% disapprove compared to 17% who approve. One wonders whether this is a sop to Trump.

Environment

It seems to be an issue that Gove has tried to make a key policy. It is notable that Johnson however went no further than May had promised in the statement.

Crime
20000 extra police. Extra stop and search powers.

NHS

Upgrade for 20 hospitals and winter readiness. Reduction of waiting times.
Is this where the £350million comes in?

No Deal

Gove to ramp up preparation for no deal.
Begin immediately to change the tax rules, to provide incentives to invest in research and capital.economic package to boost business.

Brexit and backstop

Johnson has boxed himself into a very tight corner. Just as may did with her red lines and lived to regret it.
He has been rebuff by Barnier in their first contact.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 26-Jul-19 07:45:57

What some of you seem to find acceptable in your desperation to leave is becoming alarming to say the least.

The right to protest, with the symbol of your protest has been accepted as part of our democracy. But don’t let that stop you eh?

“If a developing country had just changed the government without an election, it would be called a coup. If that coup had been led by a man clearly unfit for office, and who can’t be trusted even by his own family to tell the truth, we’d be calling that country a failed state. “ Crace.

But those who care so little about our country that for the cult of Brexit will accept all that and more, regardless of what is happening to us.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 26-Jul-19 07:31:24

You really aren't that interested in democracy are you, Firecracker

Firecracker123 Fri 26-Jul-19 07:17:28

I agree Lemongrove about the shouting EU idiot outside parliament and the topless glockenspiel man another EU supporting idiot no doubt. They need to cart them off with the EU flags.

Labaik Thu 25-Jul-19 23:57:46

'BORIS Johnson is caught up in yet another diplomatic scandal, after he was reported to have said "fuck business" when asked about fears over Brexit.
EU diplomats have expressed their shock and disgust at the comments, which they say came during a Foreign Office reception last week celebrating the Queen's Birthday.
Asked about the fears business leaders had over Brexit, Johnson replied: "Fuck business." ...has everyone forgotten this already? This is the man who is now PM of this country, and people are rejoicing.. sad

growstuff Thu 25-Jul-19 23:43:25

PS. Exactly the same argument could be applied to Steve Bray's right to say what he thinks. There's no reason he should be bullied into "backing off".

growstuff Thu 25-Jul-19 23:41:56

I knew his name. The EDL knuckledraggers recently destroyed his flag and belongings, which was reported in the media. He was able to buy new equipment from money donated by well-wishers.

Labaik Thu 25-Jul-19 23:30:19

You don't know who he is? Someone as clued up on all things political as you are? Crikey....

lemongrove Thu 25-Jul-19 23:08:38

Is that his name? How do you know?
I certainly won’t back off btw I shall continue to say what I think.

Labaik Thu 25-Jul-19 22:59:58

And you can back off when it comes to Steve Bray lemon; he's worth a thousand of you.....

Labaik Thu 25-Jul-19 22:59:06

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

lemongrove Thu 25-Jul-19 22:57:38

Now if only they would remove that idiot who walks up and down bawling ‘Stop Brexit’ at the top of his lungs.
You can hardly hear the interviews going on with him in the background.Mind you he does have some stamina I’ll give him that, and he must surely have a very sore throat.

Urmstongran Thu 25-Jul-19 22:53:06

I hear they've removed the EU flags from around Parliament. Nice one Boris. Start as you mean to go on.

GracesGranMK3 Thu 25-Jul-19 22:51:24

I'm not sure how anyone can really know what his politics are Urmstongran. They have just been talking about AI and elections on one of the programmes. The comment was that we used to accept politicians could be two-faced, now we have to realised the are fifty faced as adverts are tweaked to suit the individual. I have a feeling Johnson was well ahead of AI.

Urmstongran Thu 25-Jul-19 22:41:04

I’ve never joined FaceBook and I don’t do Instagram, snapshot etc so I done think my voting Leave was in any way influenced by adverts.

Regards Boris.

Reminds me of the Duke of Edinburgh with his ‘slitty eyed Chinese’ etc.

Yes, he makes mistakes. I don’t like everything he says.

That said, I’m not here to defend him. He’s a grown man.

I do like his politics though!

MaizieD Thu 25-Jul-19 21:57:27

He was just joking, Lessismore wink

No, they are as shameless as he is.

Lessismore Thu 25-Jul-19 21:45:21

Any Boris fans care to comment on the quotations?

MaizieD Thu 25-Jul-19 21:43:48

Such a shame that May hadn't guts enough to do something about the subversion of democracy through the use of targeted ads on social media.

But then, a whole swathe of UK voters think that covert adverts and cheating are perfectly OK as long as they are the winners by it.

Davidhs Thu 25-Jul-19 21:37:16

You ain’t seen nothing yet, we all know how the media was manipulated during the referendum, when BJ gets nothing from EU and is blocked by parliament he will call a GE.

He will use every dirty trick and manipulation to win, and probably succeed because any opposition is so inept, oh well at least it will be over quickly.

Callistemon Thu 25-Jul-19 21:23:31

Oh no, nandalot
Not just a twittering POTUS, now a Bookface UK PM

Lessismore Thu 25-Jul-19 21:16:43

here's a reminder of his back bone.

"On Bashar Al-Assad, Telegraph, March 2016
Hooray, I say. Bravo – and keep going."

"Orientals ... have larger brains and higher IQ scores. Blacks are at the other pole"

"Voting Tory will cause your wife to have bigger breasts and increase your chances of owning a BMW M3"