Johnson’s Government

It's today's politicians that have made politics unpalateable!
What do you mean by "demand they remove themselves from their friends list"???

Please tell us what you like about him?

I rather like Boris. The internet has made politics unpalatable. Maybe it was before but we just got on with things. I'm sure that all of us have lived with a PM we hadn't wanted. But you just get on with it. At least it's done with. Now we will see what happens next. In every minute detail. The one strange thing I have noticed amongst people in my circle. Many left wingers will demand they remove themselves from their friends list if they voted Conservative. You don't see that coming from right wingers. People are actually afraid to say they vote Conservative because of the vitriol that gets aimed at them. We have Boris. I for one am pleased. So shoot me down all you like.

Putin is laughing all the way to his nuclear weapons! He managed to manipulate the US elections and I believe that he also has a hand in the fact that we have a buffoon for PM. It isn't Brexit that has made us the laughing stock of the world but the way we are handling it.

I really cannot see us being able to move forward either in or out of Europe with such a leader. So we have a GE and what will that get us? It can only be hoped the far right - Farage - do not get a handle on our politics.
We all need representation not just the far right.

Anne Milton resigns: Tory minister quits over fears about Boris Johnson pursuing no-deal Brexit

Truly depressing spectacle of Johnson the liar making his promises.

Let's take comfort in the fact that the 92000 people are far from typical!

92000 people in this country think having a prime minister who is a liar, racist, cheat and lazy incompetent is just what we need.

David Gauke resigned (as he said he would).

I just watched the whole spectacle but didn't put the sound on.
I would think you're right WW2.

Are you daunted, you don’t look daunted!

Well I feel daunted all right. As well as deeply embarrassed to have such a person as our county’s PM. God help us all.

God he sounds like a teenager.

Trouble is the referendum and GE promises are undeliverable without division and damage to the U.K. which is why this whole process has been so tortuous and why remainers won’t just go away as Matthew Parris has written in a great article in The Spectator.

... and they can change their mind as circumstances change Jabberwok. Why do you think that in this one instance they can't?

That's just it Elegran! Parliament DID agree the terms of the referendum , they DID agree to honour the result, they DID sign up to article 50, and the two main parties DID go into a GE on the back of delivering Brexit . How much clearer does that have to be ? What's there not to understand?!!
I think we need to ask ourselves why Iran arrested this poor lady in the first place and perhaps condemn THEM for this aappalling cruel treatment! I don't honestly think whatever anyone did or didn't say would have made any difference , my guess is she would still be there, as will the crew of the hijacked tanker, until Iran is good and ready to release them, and sadly that won't be anytime soon!

I don't know how soon Boris Johnson will meet the negotiators in the EU but I do think he needs to polish his speech before meeetings take place. He really must be more coherent, avoid silly jokes and certainly be prepared; ad-libbing won't do. Taking his hands out of his pockets would also help. Not sure how well he speaks French/German. If he believes that he will be able to sell an improved deal to the EU perhaps he should consider the wise words of Willy Brandt: ”If I’m selling to you, I speak your language. If I’m buying, you have to speak my language”.

Anne Milton has resigned from her job as Minister for Skills and Apprenticeships.

Yes respected, that's a good word for dragonfly.

You can sugar coat your message and add little smiley faces but we can see past that sort of nonsense.

? and lemon are old partners mcem

lemon I was referring to one specific poster who clearly felt that she had to justify her own position.
A few days ago I was up to speed with this thread but had to skim read the last couple of pages so I ask again if you'd please point out one or two particularly vitriolic posts (which I must have missed).

The thought of Patel pronouncing her words without the end g gives me apoplexy, god knows how I’m going cope with the rest of the twaddle emanating from her lips.

The bitter irony of news that BJ preparing to enter No 10 later today and has ordered new furniture, alongside the news that Nazarin has been returned from the mental health unit in Iran, where she was allegedly strapped to a bed, back to prison, cannot go unremarked on.

Possibly the very worst example of his ineptitude, and he should hang his head in shame, as should his supporters.

Elegran that is why I said ‘by some’ ( and not you personally) but I still don’t agree with your assertion that leavers blindly followed what certain politicians were saying at the time.Remain politicians were also saying all kinds of crackpot things before the referendum.
Am tired of hearing that referendums are advisory since Parliament decided to go along with it, trigger article 50 and honour the result.They didn’t have to, but they did, that’s the important thing.
Three years on, Parliament has tied itself in knots, but will have to agree to a deal sometime soon.If not, it could be no deal, and Parliament will wish they had agreed May’s deal.

mcem just read all the posts.
Presumably the only ‘balanced, courteous and respected’ posters are those who voted remain?
Urmstongran is unfailingly courteous btw which doesn’t cut her any slack from some.

Elegran and Mcem your posts help so much.

Agriculture here in this part of north east Scotland is already suffering badly because of Brexit. Fruit lies unpicked and livestock prices have plunged.

My fisher friends on the west coast are desperately worried about what will happen to the trade in shellfish.

We feel ignored and forgotten and wonder why the leavers can't understand how bad it feels to be dragged out of the EU when so many of us - by a clear majority - voted to stay because we did, indeed, forsee some of these problems.

Now we are told that 65% of Tory voters would rather have Brexit no deal than keep the union. That's OK with me, but it doesn't help future rebuilding of a stable union.

And we do know that we won't be any better off when our law oversights are transferred to Boris's Westminster, even where already devolved.

For those of you who so admire Holyrood Tory leader Ruth Davidson, please be aware she has gone very very very quiet of late.

I'd be interested to see a few examples of posts which would clarify the difference between robust and 'vitriolic'.
Yes, 'remainers' are putting forward views which are clear, forceful and well-expressed but far from vitriolic.
Meanwhile we read leavers' posts which show a single narrow focus, are pointlessly repetitive and avoid facing up to events as they happen.

Genuine concern for the future of our families or personality-driven bloody-mindedness?
Scraping the barrel when a balanced, courteous and respected poster feels she has to explain that she is afraid rather than arrogant.
Does it matter that those who express genuine concern are caught in the blast when the brexiter aim is simply to shoot down everyone who who isn't supporting the brexit/Farage/BJ fiasco?