Boris and Cambridge Analytica

You have to be “in” with the right people

Trying to help you out MaizieD but grincrown doesn’t work.

[grincrown]

gg13 yes of course all that is true, and what is also true is that lobbying is entirely open to scrutiny, we can relatively easily work out the agendas etc.

My point is that the sort of systems that I am talking about, and which the FBI have recognised are systems that are influencing the voter, but who are entirely hidden from us. We have no idea who is feeding us with the sort of information that is influencing us in the way we think, either politically or socially.

I’m well in with JRM dontcha know

Loch Ness - two words Jura

Oh, FFS. Don't start that again..

Oooh, MBb

How did you put the crown on the and what does it mean?

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Loch Ness - two words Jura

Quizqueen

No jura I haven’t yet. But I intend to!

quizqueen- could you point out to us any occasion during the Campaign, when any politician advocated and openly campaigned for No Deal. I'd be grateful.

WWM2,

Political Parties have always been subjected to "lobbyists" who all have their own agenda depending on the Company/Organisation they are "lobbying" for.

Big Businesses are politicised so it is obvious they will try to influence the electorate.

Since the invention of the WWW, it is possible to reach more people with a click of a button. In my opinion it is naive not to think that if using the internet we are not subjected to hundreds of "pop-ups" and "news items" daily, even on GN. These occur for two reasons, one getting you to buy "stuff", the second being to influence how you think or respond, i.e. influence you.

The reason there are so many threads about Boris is that the majority of posters on here are, in the main, Lefties who can't get over the fact that they lost and that, after more than 3 long years of insulting half the country, the Referendum result might actually stand a small chance of being realised.
Now I'm off to read the other post of insults about one of my favourite politicians- no, not Nigel, he's my second and Trump my 3rd, but the delightful Jacob Rees-Mogg.

Long may the UK prosper, and I look forward to the demise of the EU without us.

The issue is that if you pick up the Daily Mail, The Telegraph, The Express, The Sun, The Times etc you are or should be aware of both their owners and editorial agenda. So you expect a particular set of beliefs and support for a political party.

However, what we are talking about is information being disseminated that is entirely unclear as to its agenda, and indeed whether the facts are true or not. Social media is being used to aim directly at particular groups of people and being flooded with messages which are directly implicated in voting patterns.

gg13 what are you basing that opinion on?

It is the 21st century's equivalent of biased newspapers, political rallies and the door to door canvassers.

The more people become aware the less of an impact these internet "canvassers" will have.

Have you tried the Lochness Gin Urmston?

The FBI and Muller have proven that particular persuadable groups were identified by Russia, who used social media to swing the election. Russia flooded social media with false information before the election, enough to convince these persuadables to vote in a particular way.

In Myanmar, the Military employed CA. CA through social media encouraged the denigration of the Muslim population by the Buddhist population. The result is what we all witnessed. Genocide.

jane yes that is important, but it goes further than that.

They are identifying particular groups of people like religious groups or age sets and deliberately targeting them. So for example a type of movement was formed on social media in T&T which encouraged the young not to vote as a rebellion. It spread like mad. CA had been employed to help a particular political party win the election. This party is largely supported by the Asian community. Asian children are for more compliant than Afro-Caribbean youngsters. The movement succeeded by ensuring the Afro Caribbean young rebelled against voting and the party they were assisting won the election.

It sounds far fetched, but this is exactly what happened.

I definitely agree Jane because it’s young minds ( as ever)
Who are sucked into believing all they read on the internet far, far more than adults.
It used to be believing all that is presented in newspapers,
But as youngsters never read newspapers it didn’t affect them.
I really don’t see any way of controlling the Internet, although you could devise ways of doing so with the large
Companies.

P.s. sorry to derail the thread.
Back to ‘Boris & Cambridge Analytica’ now.

Scottish gin is definitely best SirChenjin! My two favourites are Hendricks with ice & cucumber and recently in an Hotel in Wester Ross I loved the Edinburgh Gin Rhubarb & Ginger. Simply the best rhubarb gin I’ve ever tasted!

It's even more important now for schools to instil healthy scepticism and the need to consider the reliability of information sources.

The issue that needs to be recognised though is not simple advertising etc, it is actual manipulation of the voter as took place in Trinidad and Tobago, the USA and the UK. amongst others so far identified.

And where it is used to stir up racial hatred and division, it is not a case of advertising it is far more sinister and a real threat to democracy.

The genie may be out if the bottle, but we do have it in our power to control it if we wish. Facebook etc are owned by a single entity. They can easily be controlled if the will is there.