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JenniferEccles Sun 04-Aug-19 12:22:34

Is it any worse than the dreadful stabbings which we have here especially in London?

Both need to be tackled but at least we have got a tough sounding Home Secretary in Prity Patel so there is hope here.

I liked her comment about wanting criminals to feel terror.

lemongrove Sun 04-Aug-19 12:15:39

Yes, it does SueDonim ( arms carried openly in Texas)
Last year a toddler in a supermarket there shot his own Mother dead ( playing with her gun, sat in the trolley.)
Mass shootings have always happened in the US and always will do until such time as guns are banned with a few exceptions such as farmers.
We even had a few here didn’t we, not all that long ago.

Luckygirl Sun 04-Aug-19 12:03:09

It is shocking. And the statistics show that gun ownership is also high in Canada.

I see no way that this habit/"right" of US citizens to carry arms is going to be changed. Obama tried and failed and saw it as one of the major failures of his tenure as president.

SueDonim Sun 04-Aug-19 11:46:59

As I understand it, Texas has an Open Carry rule, which means anyone can be armed anywhere, for defence purposes. As far as I can see from the news reports, not one armed person tried to take down the gunman in this case, which makes me wonder what the point of open carry is.

Elegran Sun 04-Aug-19 10:34:08

There seem to be a lot of that kind of idiot around. The standard response to the idiocy is for even more to join them, all of them armed to the teeth ready to be quick on the the draw. Save time by getting your retaliation in first!

BlueBelle Sun 04-Aug-19 10:02:51

Well at least two idiots elegran as there is a second mass shooting with 9 or 10 dead in Ohio over the same period
Unbelievable that the answer is to carry more guns, the countries as mad as its president

sodapop Sun 04-Aug-19 09:54:32

I did read that the NRA were losing some money and power. Not sure how true that is though.
It does seem that the USA response to these shootings is to have more guns to protect themselves. Somehow that cycle has to stop.

Elegran Sun 04-Aug-19 09:12:23

Some idiot with a combination of a grudge, a gun and a sense of being entitled to use it to carry out his personal grievances. That last factor was NOT included in the amendment promoting the arming of a responsible militia so as to defend freedom.

BlueBelle Sun 04-Aug-19 09:11:42

Although not everything can be laid at Trumps door B9 if you have those leanings AND THEN a leader endorses them that is then on Trumps shoulders So although his views predate Trumps arrival something has changed to rev it up to happen now and not when his feelings were first recognised by himself
Of course ‘this’ mass killing may well be to do with Trump ellan he has given a voice to white supremacists
Absolutely brutal situation Guns are the spawn of the devil

EllanVannin Sun 04-Aug-19 08:59:22

So do you have a gun for protection from these mad people ?

Nothing to do with Trump. There have always been mass shootings in America, regardless of who was/is in power. Usually caused by some idiot who has a grudge.

B9exchange Sun 04-Aug-19 08:59:22

From the shooter's postings online, he says his views (racist and antisemitic) predate Donald Trump's arrival, so not everything can be laid at his door, tempting though it might be. The anti terrorist squad are handling it, though it does sound to be more racist than terrorist.

There will be a further appeal for it to be made harder for young people to just go and buy a gun that should never be possessed by anyone other than the army. And I fear the powerful NRA, who are Trump supporters, will prevent any such action.

sodapop Sun 04-Aug-19 08:34:26

Another mass shooting in El Paso, twenty people reported killed. There is some question of the Hispanic community being targeted. Is Donald Trump stirring up racial hatred in the US.
Another unconfirmed shooting in Ohio.