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Post Brexit food

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 07-Aug-19 07:45:55

The BBC is reporting about food suppliers plans post Brexit and their efforts to try to keep the food supply flowing.

It is clear that the biggest issue is going to be around fresh fruit and vegetables and the sufficient level to ensure that there is no shortage.

However, if, in the event of a shortage I think that the government should definitely introduce a form of rationing, in order that the wealthy, those living close to lots of stores etc should not be able to snap up this essential part of our diet at the expense of the poor and vulnerable.

Calendargirl Wed 07-Aug-19 13:44:42

We were talking to a chap who owns a scrap metal business. He told us in the really hot days recently, his workers (all Eastern European’s) were waiting in the yard half an hour before start time, probably 7 a.m. or thereabouts. They laboured diligently all day, reluctant to stop for water or anything. He said they were dripping in sweat but their work ethic in the heat was amazing.

Before anyone mentions exploitation, I am sure he pays them well because he values them greatly. British workers doing the same job? Not interested he says.

Minniemoo Wed 07-Aug-19 13:44:20

GracesGranMk3. And if we don't experience these shortages and disasters what do you suggest we do with the Remainers?

Put them in the stocks and throw abundant cabbages and tomatoes?

Gonegirl Wed 07-Aug-19 13:44:10

It is not irrelevant either. A lot of people think we need out of season fruits flown in. We don't, and the planet would be better without it.

Pantglas1 Wed 07-Aug-19 13:42:44

Dear me! A Joyce grenfell monologue....

Gonegirl Wed 07-Aug-19 13:42:07

That as to Gill57 (who obviously misses all the best threads on GN)

Gonegirl Wed 07-Aug-19 13:40:53

Dont't EVER say I dismiss climate change! And certainly not within earshot of my GS2 who is a far too highly active member of XR!

The very idea. hmm

I "dismiss" nothing. I use common sense.

GracesGranMK3 Wed 07-Aug-19 13:40:24

JenniferEccles do tell me when you were voted in to tell others how to run their lives. Some posts from leavers are getting beyond arrogance.

GracesGranMK3 Wed 07-Aug-19 13:37:16

I don't think you need rationing. You just get everyone to fill in a form saying whether they voted leave or remain. Leave voters instead of telling us, oh so arrogantly, that we must eat according to their rules (none of which we were told about before the referendum) can go to the back of the queue. When those who voted remain have stocked up they can have their pick of what is left.

They can then preen and peacock their cleverness in not wasting anything, living off the land, growing things that don't grow in this country and looking up old war-time recipes.

Obviously, if people decide they are not prepared to make the sacrifice for leaving and the numbers go down with reality striking we do no leave after all.

GillT57 Wed 07-Aug-19 13:36:10

Gonegirl nobody needs blueberries in winter and that is irrelevant. I assume that you dismiss the five a day guidance along with climate change? Same mindset, dismissing experts.

Gonegirl Wed 07-Aug-19 13:34:31

We have freezers so don't even need to brush up on our bottling skills.

Gonegirl Wed 07-Aug-19 13:33:16

When did we find we actually needed blueberries in the Winter?

Gonegirl Wed 07-Aug-19 13:31:56

And I think too much emphasis is put on what we should eat. I think we would be fine without all the out-of-season foods we think we have must shipped in. I think the five a day thing is most likely bollocks. Half an orange a day was found to be plenty for schoolchildren during the war.

varian Wed 07-Aug-19 13:31:40

If brexit is not stopped you can be pretty sure we would become more divided.

When we start to suffer the consequenses everyone will look for someone to blame.

The Remainers will try hard not to say "we told you so" but will, quite justifiably blame the leavers, especially the liars of the Leave campaign who fooled too many decent people.

The Leavers, spurred on by the politicians who caused this mess and by the right wing tabloids, will blame the EU,

Gonegirl Wed 07-Aug-19 13:28:06

At least it's good that they intend to change the law so the big food companies will be allowed to confer to ensure supplies are sent where needed.

To some extent, I agree about the way the Brits managed during the war. It's a known fact that people were healthier.

Overthehills Wed 07-Aug-19 13:26:34

Some people keep harking back to WWII and everybody pulling together etc. That is not the situation now, we are a divided nation.

GillT57 Wed 07-Aug-19 13:21:13

Jennifereccles are you for real? ^Possible food shortages in a country where around 80% of the population is obese is not a bad thing^

GabriellaG54 Wed 07-Aug-19 13:18:39

I think the vast majority of Polish and Romanian peoples are an asset to this country.
I have worked with them and for them and their work ethic puts some English people to shame.
From car washing to caring, nannies to hairdressers and prison officers, those I have met and known were and are helpful, cheerful, hardworking and generous.
As in any society, there are some who don't fit that description but the vast majority do.

JenniferEccles Wed 07-Aug-19 13:13:05

Possible food shortages in a country where around 80% of the population is obese is not a bad thing.

seadragon Wed 07-Aug-19 12:43:58

Omigosh.

Phoebes Wed 07-Aug-19 12:34:39

Fait accompli!

Missfoodlove Wed 07-Aug-19 12:25:25

Growstuff, in response to your message if you read my post you would see “what was available”.

GillT57 Wed 07-Aug-19 12:24:38

Yes Callistemon there is too much food wasted, but I don't think that food shortages in the shops, even if only temporary, is the way to cure that.

growstuff Wed 07-Aug-19 12:21:33

I don't disagree with you, Callistemon. I don't disagree with some of the other comments either. However, the government has had three years to plan this. What happened to some kind of public education programme about food waste and healthy nutrition?

During WW2, whole ministries were focused on educating the public about food. Where is the leadership for this kind of thing? The answer is that it won't happen, because so many people are in denial.

growstuff Wed 07-Aug-19 12:17:42

I take it you haven't been to any of the poor, rural areas of Easter Europe.

Callistemon Wed 07-Aug-19 12:16:28

Something no-one seems to have mentioned is just how much food is wasted, both in this country and world-wide.

The amount of food discarded before it even reaches the supermarkets or thrown away afterwards, is obscene. Our food is relatively cheap as a proportion of our income these days and many do not treat it as a precious commodity, have no inkling of the hard work that goes into feeding us.

Perhaps we will all learn to appreciate our food and its sources more post-Brexit.

UK throwing away £13bn of food each year, latest figures show

Waste and recycling advisory body says 4.4m tonnes of household food waste thrown away in 2015 could have been eaten
That is from an old article but I doubt that things have got much better and may well have got worse.

We should be ashamed.