November 1; Labour/coalition is in power. What should they do first??

www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/switzerland-to-re-run-referendum-because-voters-were-not-given-full-information/11/04/?fbclid=IwAR0zI22otn_RuvQRUPY0nuwQk5-sZ2vEp0CC_PVXI0kXX9eNKgIiFauwKWQ

Switzerland to re-run referendum because “voters were not given full information”

Cummings reminds me of Rasputin, instead of promising a cure for the heir's affliction, he promises Brexit. On a funnier note; the Editor of the I wondered yesterday if the power cuts were someone trying to sort out the country by turning it off and then on again

Jura it's Special Avdvisor:

A special adviser works in a supporting role to the British government. With media, political or policy expertise, their duty is to assist and advise government ministers.

This man seems to have stepped well outside the definition.

Show Jeremy Corbyn the respect he deserves for being that unicorn, an honest politician. Renationalise the railways, utilities and SCHOOLS. Cancel all the corrupt, NHS contracts designed to make a profit for right wing politicians and their cronies. Break all ties with Trumpington and rejoin Europe!

I never said that Dom Cummings was in the cabinet but hey ho you are good at twisting posts GracesGran to suit your own agenda. Water off a ducks back to me.

Our country must be a wonderful place, else people wouldn't be taking to canoes to get here!

Yeah, that'll be right.

I'm sure I'll agree, but do remind me what a SPAD is ?

For those who think this man has been elected ...

Enjoy your meal. Grandad.

I'm off to my son's to see my new granddaughter, so ciao for now!

Minniemoo, in regard to your post-@12:15 today, I would be the first to agree that Jeremy Corbyn is not a good Parliamentary speaker. I also believe that he in all probability personally does not hold the European Union structures in high regard.

However, I firmly believe that he holds the structures of the Labour Party and the broader Labour moment in the country as sacrosanct and in that a freedom of voice that all members and affiliated members of the movement should and must have in forming policy, along with the day to day running of the party.

The above can be witnessed in how Corbyn has totally supported last Septembers Labour Movement Delegate conference policy on Brexit through "thick and thin" criticism. That action I feel demonstrates his commitment to those rank and file activists and them having a real voice in Britain's Brexit future.

That policy so derided by many who considered themselves the betters of those "low born" activists has proven over the passage of this year to be the correct one. In that, even the Tory Party now seem to believe that a General Election may be the only way to resolve this Brexit crisis.

It is a pity that what those Labour grassroots activists realised almost twelve months ago was not accepted widely at that time, for had that been the case the most damaging political and constitutional crisis this country has experienced in over 75 years may by now have been all over.

As stated, those rank-and-file activist realise that, and Jeremy Corbyn realised and supported that.

The above is why I remain aligned to Labour Party/movement democracy and policies and Jeremy Corbyn to remain as leader in bringing forward those policies.

Anyway, we are now of to what will be a somewhat late lunch at one of our daughter's homes. So, bye for now.

Dominic Cummings is a very dangerous man who has been given too much power.

Grandad yes Jeremy Corbin can hold a crowd because he says what people want to hear. It does not matter that there is no way he can carry his promises out.

As for Boris doing a good job - I wonder what people are seeing. All I see is him scooting around the country promising to dish out money here and there and spouting about how the EU will change their minds. He is just as ineffectual as Corbin.

We seem to be well up the river without a paddle at the moment.

I don't care if you don't take me seriously. GGMK3. However I am lucky to be surrounded by people who do take me seriously and appreciate my point of view. Even if they don't always agree. And it's nigh on impossible to be agreeing with everyone at all time.

You mention the newspapers . I am surprised to learn that the Star is still operating. But even if that's true you have 5 pro Leave and 3 anti Leave. Not a massive disparity.

I try to read articles from all areas, not just mainstream media which we know is filled with lots of untruths and allegations from 'sources' who are never named.

We can all pick out articles that suit our agenda. It means nothing.

So you can also carry on what you're doing with your belief that we'll all be in utter dire straits if a no deal Brexit goes ahead.

But don't be surprised to learn that not everyone will agree with you.

And they're not all stupid either. There's plenty of 'stupid' on both sides.

Yes I'm a Brexit Party supporter but I'm impressed with Boris and his cabinet team including Dom Cummings feel like we might actually leave the EU now will vote for Boris and the Conservatives if we do.

How many Leavers actually do facts Firecracker123 instead of make-believe? Domonic Cummings is not a member of the cabinet. He cannot be; he isn't an MP. He is a SPAD.

The media, after all, is not keen on Brexit.

You must be joking Miniemoo. Does reason really tell you that?

From some older research - but I don't think much has changed other than the Telegraph becoming more pro we have:

Positions vary greatly between newspapers: Daily Mail included the most pro-Leave articles followed by Daily Express, Daily Star, The Sun and Daily Telegraph. The newspapers including the most pro-Remain articles were, in order, Daily Mirror, The Guardian and Financial Times.

Of course, you are entitled to believe the moon is made of blue cheese if you want to. Just don't expect anyone to take you seriously

Care to justify those statements, quizqueen and Firecracker? Why is leaving the EU without any deal such a good thing? Why is it ever justified to have an unelected adviser making undemocratic decisions? How is this taking back back control for you personally?

kittylester You could make a worse mess

Socialist Labour are not the nasty Tories

Yes I'm a Brexit Party supporter but I'm impressed with Boris and his cabinet team including Dom Cummings feel like we might actually leave the EU now will vote for Boris and the Conservatives if we do.

Although I'm a UKIP/Brexit Party supporter, I think Boris has done rather well for the 3 weeks he's been PM so until he lets me down on the 31st October, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Quite agree, Grandad with regard to Corbyn holding a crowd. This seems to have dissipated slightly, recently. Possibly due to the fact he's been absent. He performs much better in front of a crowd. He doesn't do as well in the House. I think you will agree that Corbyn is anti EU. He always has been. Plenty of speeches of him berating it on Youtube.

Which is course is a major problem for him. Also a lot of Labour voters are pro Brexit.

I have voted Conservative in the past. When I read May's manifesto I was appalled. In fact I did say to anyone willing to listen that she just didn't want to win.

Minniemoo, in regard to your post @11:39 today, I believe we shall have to agree to disagree on what brought about the unexpected result of the 2017 General Election.

However, I do have one very personal recollection of that campaign. A few of us from my company where in Swindon carrying out a safety audit at a company which was not going too well from that employer's point of view.

We decided to into the town centre for lunch while some managers at the company tried to find a number of risk assessments that were required.

As we walked through the town centre Jeremy Corbyn was setting up almost unannounced in the Square. We stopped watched and listened to his speech given to an ever-growing crowd that surrounded him, and also the questions he spoke to following.

I and the others with me were "quite taken back" by the way he captured that ad-hoc audience and his ability to take and handle questions no matter how hostile following his address.

It was very impressive no matter where in the political spectrum anyone political allegiances may lay. The only thing I held against Jeremy Corbyn on that day, was that we never got to have our nice lunch due to listening to him. We went pasty in hand back to our safety audit. ?

Of course it is, GracesGranMK3. I never suggested otherwise.
The media after all is not keen on Brexit.

I'm just trying to say that not everyone will agree with your way of thinking and that should be OK. With the exception of course of hate speech, racism etc etc. That should not be tolerated.

I suppose I am one of the types who accepts that in some situations I can do absolutely nothing. And I think this is one of those occasions.

No amount of articles from left wing publishers will change my opinion. Nor from right wing press either. The press has its own agenda. I disagree with a lot I read from Brexit voters. I would be hypocritical not to.

But some people almost seem to want us to fail. It's a bit like being addicted to the drama.

Fact is we don't know what will happen. We don't even know if Brexit will happen on Oct 31st. And we don't know if it will be a No Deal Brexit either

Much the same is online from Sky, the Sun, Politics Home, The Huff Post, the Independent and The Times Minniemoo. I am not sure how many varied sources you actually want before you believe something to be true.

That's from The Guardian, growstuff.

Yes history does repeat, the 1983 election haunts me

Hi Grandad. The reason that May lost her massive lead in the polls was the ridiculous manifesto they put out. It was almost as if she wanted to lose.