Liberal Democrats

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-49623885

Angela Smith said: "We are facing a national crisis and people deserve better than the choice of the old two parties."

Ms Smith is the third MP to join the Lib Dems in a week, after Luciana Berger and Philip Lee defected.

She quit Labour in February to form the Change UK party with six other MPs.

The decision by the Ms Smith, who is MP for Penistone and Stocksbridge, brings the total number of Lib Dem MPs to 17, with Mr Lee dramatically crossing the floor from the Conservatives on 3rd September.

Angela Smth MP has joined the Libdems.

Something to cheer the Lib Dem’s

If Ken Clarke is considering voting
@LibDems
at the next General Election, you can be pretty confident that many, who would normally vote Conservative, are also thinking of do the same.

The Liberal Democrat’s have said that if the 21 Tory rebels are not allowed back into the party, the Liberals and the Greens would not put up a candidate against MPs Rory Stewart, Sam Gyimah, Margot James and Dominic Grieve.

In return, if they were to beat the official Tory candidates and win election to the Commons, they would agree to take a 'soft whip' from the Liberals, meaning they would vote with Ms Swinson's party on selected issues.

Democracy cannot have a gun to its head

talkradio.co.uk/news/sir-ed-davey-democracy-cannot-have-gun-its-head-19090632070

I believe the Liberal Democrats are best placed to build the unifying and inspiring political force needed

www.libdems.org.uk/phillip-lee-joins-libdems

Luciana Berger Liberal Dmocrat MP posts-

"This is a moment of national crisis.

Leaving the Labour party after being a member for almost 20 years was one of the hardest decisions of my life. But Labour has changed beyond recognition. It is now institutionally antisemitic, overtaken by the far left and consumed by a Brexiteer leadership.

My values remain the same. I fundamentally believe in equality, opportunity for everyone, social justice and the unequivocal, unqualified condemnation of discrimination.

I am proud to be an internationalist. I know the UK can play a leading role in the world. We can best do this as members of the European Union. That is why I have fought tooth and nail to stop Brexit through a people’s vote.

The Liberal Democrats today best represent my values and are unequivocal in wanting to stop Brexit and are committed to securing Britain’s future as a tolerant, open and inclusive society.

At this moment of national emergency I am joining Jo Swinson and the Liberal Democrats, to offer a vital, positive alternative to Johnson and Corbyn. I want to help build a future that our country deserves."

www.libdems.org.uk/luciana-joins

This

3 men have been convicted of antisemitic abuse against Luciana Berger. They are:

Garron Helm
Joshua Bonehill-Paine
John Nimmo

A 4th man, Jack Coulson was convicted of a terrorism offence.

All of the above self-identified as far right/neo-Nazis.

None were Labour supporters.

Luciana Berger MP has joined the Libdems!

Boris Johnson had no answer to this

twitter.com/LibDems/status/1168922852503867392?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Dr Phillip Lee cited this disgusting exchange between Dr David Nicholls and Jacob Rees Mogg as the last straw which made him decide to cross the floor and join the LibDems.

Dr Lee is a Consultant Neurologist and the person who wrote the medical section of the Operation Yellowhammer Report.

The way Mogg spoke to him was appalling, calling him a fearmonger and a Remoaner.

I do not think Phillip Lee will be the last MP to decide to leave the party of JRM, BJ and Cummings.

www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2019/sep/02/jacob-rees-mogg-accuses-doctor-fearmongering-no-deal-deaths-video

Jo Swinson, replying to the Prime Minister's stastement, has just welcomed Dr Phillip Lee MP (former Conservative) to the Liberal Democrats.

He had crossed the floor and was sitting beside Jo Swinson, so this government has lost its majority!

Wrong, Opal, very wrong!

I would and I've explained before why I would - and why I initially accepted the first vote.

It's partly the attitudes and attacks from people like you which have changed my mind.

Firecracker123 and Opal, I think you are wrong; it has been said by various Remainers on various threads that if an honest second referendum were to be held and if the result was Leave, we would accept it, however strongly we felt that it was the wrong thing to do.

The UK’s top civil servant has been urged to ensure an internal Whitehall dossier laying bare the risks of a no-deal Brexit is published in full, amid fears the document will be “watered down”.

As rebel MPs mount a last-ditch bid to block a looming no-deal departure, reports emerged that the government will publish a neutralised version of the Operation Yellowhammer document, which warned over possible food, fuel and medicine shortages.

The Liberal Democrats have written to Sir Mark Sedwill, the cabinet secretary, to demand clarity over whether the public would be offered a “watered-down dodgy dossier that has reportedly been drafted to suit political agendas”.

In the letter, seen by The Independent, Tom Brake, the party’s Brexit spokesperson, said Whitehall officials who compiled the document should be hauled before MPs to give evidence.

He said: “Sources familiar with the document, which I understand was compiled by the Cabinet Office, describe the version being prepared for release to the public as ‘soft soap’ and ‘neutralised’.

As the Leader of the Liberal Democrats Jo Swinson said, people deserve better than a watered-down dodgy dossier that has reportedly been drafted to suit political agendas.

“I am therefore writing to ask that you confirm that any ministerial demand that civil servants water down or ‘adapt the truth’ in this document would be tantamount to ministers breaking the ministerial code?”

Mr Brake asked for reassurances that civil servants would be protected if they refused to “sanitise” the document, and also asked for the details of those involved so they could be invited urgently to give evidence in parliament.

He added: “Given the serious threat of medicine and food shortages in the event of a no-deal Brexit, it is only right that the government is fully open and transparent about the detail of Operation Yellowhammer.”

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/no-deal-brexit-latest-yellowhammer-food-fuel-medicine-shortages-boris-johnson-a9087666.html

I don't think any of the other GN remainers would either!

I don't think Varian would accept a Leave vote after a second referendum either ?

Varian

"If it were possible to run a fair People's Vote, and the leave side secured a majority, the Liberal Democrats would respect that vote"
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I think you must hear / interpret different words spoken from Jo Swinson than I do. I have heard Swinson say it more than once she will not accept a leave vote if there were another Referendum. She may have changed her tune but if the link works this was certainly one of the times I remember watching her being interviewed.

www.youtube.com › watch
Newly elected Liberal Democrat Leader wouldn't accept a Leave result even after a second referendum - YouTube

These are lies.

The Liberal Democrats are the leading party of REMAIN. That is true. We believe, as most of the UK population do, that the future of the UK is best if we remain a member of the EU.

We have, as full members, and very influential members of the world's greatest trading bloc, huge influence and huge advantages which have increased our position as a world power.

We enjoy the best deal of any EU member country. We are not in the Euro, nor in Schengen and we have a rebate. We have prospered because of our EU membership, not just in financial terms, but because we co-operate with our partner countries for the benefit of all, in security, science, research, commerce, and in so many ways.

Frictionless trade has given us a huge advantage and as a global trading nation we enjoy the trading agreements between the EU and so many other countries worldwide.

We have enjoyed peace in Europe and most especially in the island of Ireland as the Good Friday Agreement is guaranteed by both the Republic of Ireland and the United Kingdom being EU members.

Why should we throw this away?

The Liberal Democrats believe, and will continue to believe that we should Remain in the EU.

The fraudulent referendum of 2016 has been proven to have been won by lies, criminal activity and foreign interference.

If it were possible to run a fair People's Vote, and the leave side secured a majority, the Liberal Democrats would respect that vote, although our own view that continued membership of the EU would be preferable would not change.

Or the Illiberal Democrats.

They should be renamed the Undemocratic Party.

Agree POGS

Well said POGS....in this matter they are not democratic or liberal they are extremists.

The irony is the Lib Dems are trying to force through a ' NO Deal' by their own style of subterfuge.

The desire for ' NO Deal' is not to accept ' A Deal' it is to accept nothing other than No Deal at all, Revoke Article 50 and Remain in the EU.

When the Lib Dems say they will ' NEVER ' accept the result of a democratic Referendum unless it returns a Remain vote I honestly do not know how they can be called either Liberal or Democrats.