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Asked this morning why she could never support a Corbyn government, Jo Swinson's first and instant response was that he would not be prepared to order submarine commanders to fire nuclear missiles.
Her constituents might want to think very hard about that before they vote.

Ilovecheese, Swinson’s voting record is awful. Very right wing.

I feel the same as you Dyffryn The Lib Dems are a right wing party now, under Jo Swinson

Sturgeon is only of interest to voters in Scotland,

How are the Lib Dem’s centre left? Surely they are centre right. They have so many ex Tory MPs now they can’t possible be left.

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@0Calamity

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I'll sthkweam and sthkweam and sthkweam until I'm sthick! And I can!
Violet Elizabeth Swinson is now threatening to sue ITV if they don't let her debate with the "boys".
FFS.

Sky News have invited Jo Swinson, Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn to take part in a tv debate.

So far only Jo Swinson has accepted the invitation.

Is that democratic or fair?

Seems obvious to me - the number of constituencies in which tory and labour will be head-on is small. In most tory or labour held constituencies the Lib Dems are the greatest electoral threat. Therefore to the advantage of both to exclude Jo Swinson. Nothing to do with gender, wh I think a silly argument here.

Liberal Democrats are threatening legal action against ITV if Jo Swinson is blocked from taking on Boris Johnson and Jeremy Corbyn in its general election leaders’ debate.

Ms Swinson responded with fury to the announcement that only the Conservative and Labour leaders are being invited to take part in the first TV debate of the campaign on 19 November.

She said that the decision would mean that there was no woman and no representative of Remain in the televised showdown.

And she said that if Mr Johnson and Mr Corbyn refused to debate with her, it suggested that "they are sexist or they are scared or possibly both”.

Accusing the two leaders of engaging in an "establishment stitch-up", she asked: "Why are they so scared of taking on a girly swot?"

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-tv-debate-jo-swinson-lib-dems-itv-corbyn-johnson-a9184736.html

The Liberal Democrats are a centre left party and nowhere near to being aligned with the conservatives. LibDem policies are much closer to Labour.

Remember that in the most recent national election (for the EU Parliament) the LibDems got more votes than the Cons and Lab Parties put together.

Jo Swinson, like Johnson and Corbyn, is a candidate for PM. There is no-one in the nationalist, Green or brexit parties who is a possible national leader.

Is this discrimination based on the fact that Jo is not a man, or that they are frightened of her out-debating the pair of them as happened when Cameron and Brown had to keep saying "I agree with Nick"?

Maybe that would be a good thing - get input from all of them and thrash out a way forward. It would be good practice for working together in the future, which they are going to have to do. No one party can sort out the mess.

What is more likely to happen is that each leader will treat it as a party political broadcast, and use it to boast about themselves and talk down the others.

If Jo Swinson is included in the leadership debates, the debates would be too heavily weighted towards right wing policies. Things looked a bit different when Nick Clegg was the leader, the LibDems did not seem so closely alignned with the Conservatives.
Plus, Nicola Sturgeon would have good reason to make a case for her own inclusion, as would the leaders of Plaid, and the Greens and even the Brexit party.

yes- and we must make our voices heard on the subject- for sure.

It is outrageous that the leader's debate excludes Jo Swinson so we will have leaver Johnson debating with leaver Corbyn and no one speaking for more than half the population who want us to Remain in the EU.

news.sky.com/story/sexist-scared-or-both-lib-dem-jo-swinson-challenges-exclusion-from-tv-debate-11853091

Former chairman of the Conservative Muslim Forum has defected to the Libdems. Hear him explain why in this LBC interview

www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/maajid-nawaz/former-conservative-muslim-forum-defects-libdems/

Former Tory MP Matthew Parris has said he will now vote Liberal Democrat

Shoequeen, nobody votes for the Prime Minister except the people in his/her constituency. The leader of any given party becomes Prime Minister if they hold the most seats in Parliament. We are not like America who really do vote for their President. We don’t.
Your argument that we (the whole country) didn’t vote foe Boris is disingenuous and fatuous.

I agree with you there Grandad1943. The Lib Dems have been called Tory-Lite or Diet-Tory! Or Tories with a yellow ribbon.

Annette Sandbach hasn't a chance. Standing as and being elected as an independent is near impossible in this country without the backup and support of a wider party structure. So this is self preservation from her - keep her job and a place on the gravy train. Nothing to do with being a LD she’s just a liberal- socialist who masqueraded as Tory and got the party and local activists to get her into Parliament.

Boot her out and humilate her publicly at the results in the Town Hall in Eddisbury.

I know people who were at her deselection meeting.

When they were asked about a WTO deal about 90% put their hand up to say they would support it. She was shocked!

It showed how out of touch she really is.

Since 2010 the Liberal Democrats have continually supported the Tory Party. They have supported years of austerity, changes to workers rights in safety etc and even went back on the pledge to their own supporters in regard to tuition fees.

Lib Dems, just mark then down as the Tory Party mark two, with the exception of Brexit. In that, they just want to ignore the referendum result, which even I as a remain voter believe should not happen.

Another Tory has joined Lib Dems

@KenosisKinesis

30 Oct
Dumbfounded.

Observe the warm, knowing smiles and lingering eye contact. A subservient nod of the head from Swinson; as good as a wink from Johnson.

I simply can't imagine Johnson inviting any other party leader to LITERALLY join the Tories. Don't trust the Lib Dems.

twitter.com/KenosisKinesis/status/1189684241480736769?s=20

Owen REGISTER TO VOTE Jones?
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In the last 3 days, Jo Swinson has posted 4 tweets attacking Labour and 0 tweets attacking the Tories.

Aaron Bastani
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Listen to
@yanisvaroufakis
- the
@LibDems
deserve nothing but maximum contempt. Forever.

#GE2019 #GeneralElection19 #GE19 #generalelection2019

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Antoinette Sandbach MP has joined the Liberal Democrats

Let's face it; Johnson is only going for an election because he can't get his c**p Brexit deal through parliament as he doesn't have a working majority [so not much to gloat about there; plus the fact he's lost how many votes up to now??]. So, he's actually won a couple of things. Well, woohoo for him...

lemon give it a rest, the date of Dec 12 isn't some great victory for BJ, he only got it because the other parties let him have it - he hasn't got a majority, remember?