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varian Sun 18-Aug-19 13:00:42

This is a national emergency. There is no mandate for an undemocratic no deal #Brexit. Reckless Johnson + unelected Cummings want to gag our democracy. We have written to the PM to demand Parliament is recalled. RT if you believe @BorisJohnson should #RecallNow

Tom Brake MP, LibDem brexit spokesman

twitter.com/thomasbrake/status/1162985890672762881?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Grandad1943 Mon 19-Aug-19 08:43:27

gangy5, in regard to your post @-08:28 today, can you please point me to a link where any leading member of the leave campaign during the referendum campaign informed this nation to be prepared for a "few years of disruption" should Britain withdrawal from the EU.

I seem to recall that on leaving it would be "all immediate benefits" starting with three hundred an fifty million a week extra for the NHS.

growstuff Mon 19-Aug-19 08:41:08

How selfish! You're saying that you're prepared to impose a few years of disruption on the half of the population who don't agree with your aims.

gangy5 Mon 19-Aug-19 08:28:45

We, in the 'Wish to Depart Brigade' are not oblivious to the problems that no deal Brexit 'may' bring - please don't paint us as being so naive. Bring it on - we're prepared for even a few years of disruption as long as democracy is delivered.

varian Sun 18-Aug-19 18:14:43

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/no-deal-brexit-would-like-18956863

varian Sun 18-Aug-19 18:14:21

9 ways No Deal Brexit will cause chaos according to Operation Yellowhammer leak

Leaked No-deal Brexit planning documents from Operation Yellowhammer warn of the likely impact on the UK - not the worst case scenario, and have been likened to 'wartime' in peacetime by the Lib Dems

Anti-Brexit campaigners today claimed fresh warnings over the risks of a no-deal exit showed the “wartime” impact it would have on the UK.

Britain faces shortages of fuel, food and medicine, a three-month meltdown at ports, a hard border with Ireland and rising costs in social care under a no-deal Brexit , official files warn. The Operation Yellowhammer briefing outlines the most likely impacts of leaving without a pact rather than the worst-case scenario.

It came as the Tories’ Brexit civil war deepened as Boris Johnson launched an unprecedented attack on MPs bidding to stop a no-deal departure.

The Prime Minister claimed it was “as plain as a pikestaff that Brussels - or the EU 27 - will simply not compromise as long as they believe there is the faintest possibility that Parliament can block Brexit on 31 October”.

Reports today highlighted latest Whitehall warnings of the possible consequences on various sectors of leaving the EU without a deal.

9 stark warnings on a No Deal Brexit in leaked Operation Yellowhammer documents

1. Fuel - Petrol supplies could be disrupted, two oil refineries could shut and 2,00 workers could lose their jobs.

2. Northern Ireland - Avoiding a hard border is likely to be “unsustainable” with a new frontier all but inevitable.

3. Gibraltar - 15,000 workers who cross the border from Spain every day face delays of more than four hours “at least for a few months”.

4. Ports - Up to 85% of lorries using Channel ports may not be ready for French customs checks.

5. Food - Some supplies of fresh food will fall with hundreds of thousands of customers affected by water supplies.

6. Drugs - Vital medicines could rot on unrefrigerated lorries stuck at ports, with disruption lasting up to six months.

7. Border- Passengers travelling to and from the EU could be subject to more immigration checks.

8. Fishing - Nearly 300 foreign boats could be illegally fishing in UK waters, risking clashes at sea.

9. Care - The “fragile” care industry could be hit by rising inflation and small operators could collapse within three months.
Lib Dem Brexit spokesman Tom Brake said: “Operation Yellowhammer reveals the truth of a no-deal Brexit.

Tom Brake believed no-deal would have "wartime" implications (Image: PA)
“It would have wartime implications, in peacetime, all of them self-inflicted.

“People will be horrified that Boris Johnson and the Conservatives are willing to pursue a plan that will lead to shortages of medicines, food and fuel. This is a far cry from the promises Boris Johnson made in the referendum campaign.

Opal Sun 18-Aug-19 17:47:27

PS Think I might save all of these anti-Brexit threads, and re-post them this time next year, when the world hasn't ended, there is still food on the shelves, patients can still get their medications, the economy is sound, we are still trading with other countries, and the sky hasn't fallen in chicken licken!
gringringrin

Urmstongran Sun 18-Aug-19 17:46:28

Hear, hear Opal

Opal Sun 18-Aug-19 17:42:05

Gag our democracy. You must be joking. It is those who want to thwart Brexit that are the gaggers of democracy.

Stop trying to tell Leavers what they voted for. We voted to Leave. If it is without a deal, so be it.

growstuff Sun 18-Aug-19 17:41:27

Please make your mind up, RosieLeah. On the one hand Remainers are accused of running around like Henny Penny; now you're accusing them of not believing Brexit will happen.

growstuff Sun 18-Aug-19 17:39:40

What a thoroughly nasty hope, gangy5!

RosieLeah Sun 18-Aug-19 17:37:36

This is part of the problem, gangy. Too many people refused to believe that it was going to happen (they still don't). They still live in hope of some last minute reprieve which will bring a halt to Brexit.

MaizieD Sun 18-Aug-19 17:36:24

Well, gangy5, prior to 29th March of this year we had a poster called Andy who was getting very excited about leaving the EU. He went quiet the day after.

You Leavers are very fond of telling us that no-one can foretell the future...

Think on....

Eloethan Sun 18-Aug-19 17:32:14

I wonder if you will also "relish" the aftermath if we do indeed leave without a deal.

gangy5 Sun 18-Aug-19 17:29:17

I'm really relishing seeing all those 'Wanting to Stay in EU Lot' getting their knickers in a twist - now that the end to their battle is in sight.

paddyann Sun 18-Aug-19 16:34:56

if leaving threatens the GFA ,then no trade deals with the USA ,how do leavers feel about that?

Whitewavemark2 Sun 18-Aug-19 15:25:22

growstuff the really scary thing is that people have been willing to think that that is what they voted for.

growstuff Sun 18-Aug-19 15:14:15

They didn't put an actual cross against "No deal", but they were certainly promised some kind of deal - Swiss, Norwegian, "don't bother yourself about it - it will all be sorted, because countries will be queuing up to do deals with the UK".

If you go to a doctor, who promises to sort out the pain in your leg with little problem, you'll almost certainly agree. However, I wonder how many people would still agree if the doctor knew all along that amputation was necessary.

Jabberwok Sun 18-Aug-19 15:06:18

Leave voters voted leave, they didn't vote for a deal or no deal because they weren't asked!! Cameron said lots of things, including how the referendum should be run! All approved by Parliament ! Perhaps experienced politicians didn't realise what they were voting for?!! Very probably If the last three years are anything to go by!!!!

MaizieD Sun 18-Aug-19 14:54:27

It's undemocratic because that is not what people voted for. That is not what Leave voters were promised.

Extraordinary how Leavers keep insisting that Idiot Cameron's 'promise' to the electorate that the ref. result would be upheld is written in tablets of stone and never be disregarded yet they aren't so keen on holding the Leave campaigners to their promises.

Jabberwok Sun 18-Aug-19 14:33:41

No deal is the default position of article 50 passed into law by 80% of MP's, if a deal is not forthcoming that parliament and the EU can agree. As this would appear to be the position how can this be undemocratic?!

Whitewavemark2 Sun 18-Aug-19 14:27:06

I see that the government is issuing project fear notices, saying that there will be food shortages as well as medicine.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 18-Aug-19 14:00:05

It is rubbish to talk of leaving even a day early it is illegal and simply won’t be recognised.

EllanVannin Sun 18-Aug-19 13:57:55

Another fine mess !

With a bit of luck the Queen could step in and call a halt.

MaizieD Sun 18-Aug-19 13:54:16

Which traders would that be, Ug?

This doesn't seem so confident:

Many companies not prepared for no-deal Brexit - survey

www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/0805/1067061-brexit-business/

Urmstongran Sun 18-Aug-19 13:44:30

Boris might consider Leaving a couple of days earlier as 31 October is a Thursday - slightly inconvenient for a next day seismic changeover but traders say they are well prepared for No Deal.