Corbyn can help stop No Deal ....... but what then?

Nonsense Quizqueen. The EU need not fear other countries wanting to leave. Far from it.

Support for EU membership above 80% in most member states amid Brexit mess

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/brexit-eu-survey-italy-ireland-portugal-eurosceptic-poll-a8888126.html

Beckett, in regard to your post @-18:14 today, i feel that should this government fall on a vote of no confidence and a temporary government was then voted in by Parliament, the EU granting an extension of article fifty would be no problem.

However, should they not grant such an extension, then that temporary UK government would still be under obligation to Parliament to call a General Election.

In that, Britain crashing out of the European Union at the same time as Britain being in the throes of a General Election campaign with only a Caretaker government does not bear thinking about.

A responsible government would, in those circumstances, Revoke Article 50 then call a general election.

But could that temporary government ignore that obligation perhaps under the guise of it being in the national interest for them to continue governing.

I suppose what I am trying to say, very badly, is could we end up with a "temporary" government taking over permanently?

The temporary government could at any time be dislodged by a vote of no confidence.

Beckett Quote [ But could that temporary government ignore that obligation perhaps under the guise of it being in the national interest for them to continue governing.

I suppose what I am trying to say, very badly, is could we end up with a "temporary" government taking over permanently?] End Quote.

Beckett, should any temporary government continue to govern against the will of Parliament, then a vote of no confidence could be brought against it by MPs on all sides of the House of Commons.

On losing that the temporary government would be compelled to resign and a General Election called. The other alternative would be to form another temporary government that was acceptable to Parliament for a further limited period of time or circumstance.

EU leaders have made it clear over and over and over again that there will be no re-negotiation of the deal. They may be willing to tweak a few points but that's all. So what exactly is the point of asking for yet another delay? The MPs who ostensibly are trying to arrange a block on No Deal know this. Mr Corbyn knows this. Only the Lib Dems are honest enough to say they want to block Brexit completely. Why can't the rest be honest too. They're not trying to block No Deal, they're trying to block us leaving.

This is the next step.

The first thing that must be done is stop a no-deal deal. This can, if everyone stick go there word and enough Conservatives come on board, they should be able to take the possibility of no-deal off the table.

Let's worry about what happens next when this has been achieved.

Stick to ...

Wretched machine - sticks

If No Deal can be taken off our table it won’t be off the EU’s table though will it. Their businesses are suffering too through this dragging out of Brexit and I don’t really see them agreeing to yet another crippling delay. It might be considerably more crippling for us, but I don’t think that’s of concern to them.

Will this sorry saga never end. Why oh why has that dreadful little man just found a voice after 3 years of sitting on the fence. It beggars belief.
Future referendums on anything, seem a waste of time, money and effort, the results seem meaningless.

From what I've been reading recently, Nfk, some EU member states are gaining from UK businesses relocating to them (article in The Times on Monday, IIRC) or picking up business from other EU companies who no longer wish to use UK companies as their suppliers (Polly Toynbee, Guardian, 27th Aug). So perhaps not as painful for them as Leavers would like to believe.

Referendums are only applicable if the result is government approved! Anything else won't do and will be systematically, over a period of time , destroyed, either by having further referendum (s) till you get the 'right' answer, however small the majority! ( in this case margins and shenanigans won't
matter!!) or by bringing down a government as in this case, on the pretence of preventing no deal, when in fact what you are really doing is trying to revoke the very things you voted for, in order to reverse the result of the referendum! Pity this rabble can't come clean on their true intentions!!

As far as I can see Jabberwok, there was never a majority for no deal. It currently seems to find favour with only 34% of the country as far as I can find - perhaps you know differently. I certainly can't find any reason why a third of the country should dictate to the rest. No deal (and possibly Boris, who seemed to promise it) needs to go so we can find a workable next stage.

It is all about what is possible and what is pragmatic as well as what the actual majority want - not a large, whinging and load mouthed minority.

Brexit: Leaders agree on tactics to stop no-deal in meeting with Jeremy Corbyn

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-leaders-reach-agreement-tactics-19013320?fbclid=IwAR1U0K1hTDP2BSYKnCi1iegfUUqZ2unRzYUGYWOxjDzK7-Is2kcxkngEyAQ

There was never a majority for no deal as that question was never asked!!! As I understand it Boris is attempting to get a deal, the very thing the opposition are asking for, so why rock the boat?!! Incidentally hypocritical John Major prorogued parliament in 1997 for nearly three weeks, dragging the Queen into a sleazy cash for questions row!! well within living memory I'd say!

Polling has gone on since the referendum Jabberwok.

Justin King, former Sainsbury's CEO, in favour of no deal if we can't remain (first choice) says government is planning for a disaster rather than to avoid a disaster.

Jabberw 'There was never a majority for no deal as that question was never asked!!!' - well no, it wasn't- because the whole campaign was based on getting a fabulous Deal, an easy deal, a perfect deal, and that we held all the cards.

Some of us always knew such a deal could not, and would not exist- but most people voted on the basis of the above.

Boris Johnson needs two thirds of MPs to agree to an election under the Fixed Term Parliament Act - it's not just up to him and his party.

All depends on whether Corbyn agrees to whip in favour or insist on legislation to block No Deal first.

Corbyn is playing a long slow game of ‘Not me, Guv’.

NoDeal or an approximation of it will go through with all the associated chaos &/or benefits. However it pans out, Corbyn’s paw prints will not be on it AND he sees the UK leave the EU. All the better for him to stand valiant & clear for PM at the next GM, & the;crack on with significant public spending maybe some renationalising of key industries.

Johnson knows this, Corbyn knows he knows this.

Actually Jura, the Brexiteers I know didn't vote for any deal in particular. They voted to leave and fully realise that no deal was, is and has to be an option. Anyone who's sold anything or made any deals in their lives realises this. Especially those working with strong trade unions.

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I don't remember that Jabberwork yes, what a hypocrite.